In a message dated 11/15/04 8:43:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, GSDHALLMARK@xxxxxxx writes: > We've had a lot of inappropriate loose leads up here in the last few years > and it's getting boring. The dogs up here are doing fine, but it's still not > right. Especially for the young dogs starting out. > I think if I saw someone threaten my dog in the ring, I would be in the ring with an opinion, and let the show committee work it out later. We do have to consider what might be going on in the judge's mind. We have told the judges over and over how important the temperament test is, and today many of them think it is a veiled warning that our dogs are dangerous. I know this, because when I have judged at some all breed shows, the judges have told me this. We need to take aside someone who acts afraid of our dogs and try to talk to them. I have done this, and will do it again. But, if my dog is treated this way in the ring by anyone, including the judge, he is going to have me in his face. Since I am now the head of the Southwestern Trial Board for the AKC, I doubt anyone would be in much trouble for protecting a dog from an aggressive judge, at least in my region. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Evan Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the Poster and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original poster AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For technical help and administrative matters, please contact the List Administrators at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================