In a message dated 11/15/2004 7:05:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > I sure hope someone filed a complaint and called an A.K.C. Rep. over to > watch > this kind of behavior?? > A Judge like this is ASKING for a bite....and that could ruin the career of > the > dog, and UNFORTUNATELY NOT THE JUDGE!!! If i can add something... with all due respect to all, i am one of the first ones to have posted that my dogs would do a "bark and hold" and be commended, but they would NOT bite that judge or a person who acted like him, that is NEVER allowed. The judge is still an idiot for doing that to a young dog and if he failed a GSD for standing his ground, be it with the bark and hold etc... with the approach he took, he is even more of an idiot. A GSD with sound temperament does not bite someone just for flailing their arms nor for staring them down, or acting like a "wierd stranger" as in the Temperament Test. Granted this was done to a 6 month old puppy, and that age they may not know bark and hold but barking to alert would be very awesome indeed and at that age they are also NOT allowed to bite anyone either... no matter how the judge acts... but again, i strongly feel that judge was incorrect in his methods and had he been bit for doing what he did, that would also be incorrect of the dog, had that happened. THANK GOD it didnt. Dawnmarie Dawnmarie ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the Poster and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original poster AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For technical help and administrative matters, please contact the List Administrators at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================