Jackie ,I too am relatively new in conformation...and I have done very little winning...a good friend of mine once said "our standard is like a moving target"...but whether or not you like the standard is irrelevant...if you want to win in the conformation ring you must produce or buy the type or style of dog that wins...if this type or style does not appeal to you for what ever reason then it would be a waste of your time and money to show German Shepherd dogs...its really just that simple.......if you want to show dogs that look like the dogs that won 45 years ago, it is my guess that you will not be collecting very many blue ribbons, but then again neither do I....I enjoy your spirit...have we been married in a former life?....lol...Ed MarcatoGSD@xxxxxxx wrote: Ok, so apparently the kind of dog I like is wrong. But what I don't understand is, how come if this dog was correct 45 years ago, he's not now? Isn't correct, correct? No matter how you look at it? Even if the style of dog has changed? - Jackie Marcato Shepherds Where it's about function, not flash ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================