In a message dated 3/12/2005 5:04:15 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, cudjoegsd@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: you then hand out our present Illustrated Standard and the attendees ask if the I.S. is of the German Shepherd? There is a marked difference between todays GSD and the GSD of 50 years ago when the present I.S. was illustrated I would be glad to give a seminar if asked. And, if our I.S. is so bad, stop handing it out. I have judged the 250 breeds at ARBA for years, and never asked for and never needed an illustration. I just read the standard used by the breed club. We have one of the best written standards in the world. If a judge is so stupid they can't read and understand it, let them judge another breed. Our dogs don't look like illustrations, they are a picture in motion, and no drawing will ever be able to show that anyway. I have nothing against using an illustration, but since the one we have used now for 50 years is so terrible, (or at least some think it is), then throw it away, insist that judges read our standard, and if they don't understand it, don't enter under them. Some how we have managed to get good dogs finished, great dogs Select, and not that many inferior dogs finishing. How bad could the Illustration have been? Or, maybe no one was looking at it. Do we think if we had a perfect illustration that there would no longer be bad judging by stupid judges? Maybe so. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================