Amen Joan, Maybe those that are running for the board need to take an exam on the By-Laws and P&P in order to qualify to be able to run. Just a thought! Angie Martin Charan GSD's Home of 08 So. Pacific BIM Charan's Masquerade of Kimber, 8pts both majors Co-owner/Breeder Charan's Magic Spell of Sandroc, 14pts, both majors -----Original Message----- From: Joan Fox <campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx> To: hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx; Paula Cooke <pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx>; showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Fri, Aug 20, 2010 5:38 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: I am what I am All of you! Please stop this. It is senseless. e should all be dedicated to the breed and who cares where we show them.!!!! his is the best breed in the world but if we don't stop the bickering and oncentrate on the dogs we are doomed. he time is approaching....it may be here... for a crisis for our breed and lub. Why are some fighting over this when PETA, legislation issues, puppy mills and dealers such as the HUNTE Corp. are on the radar? People that are running for the Board should spend their time reading the y-Laws and the P&P. If these had been followed we would not have many of the urrent problems. People that are running for the Board have to stop listening to one side or nother and being filled up with misconceptions and misinformation and down ight lies! osting something... to any list.... does not make it true! For the breed, oan 7500 Haskins Rd. hagrin Falls, Ohio 44023d ome & Fax: 440-543-9165 ell: 440-759-4119 _______________________________ rom: Hickoryhill <hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx> o: Paula Cooke <pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx>; showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ent: Fri, August 20, 2010 7:33:20 PM ubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: I am what I am ---- Forwarded Message ----- rom: Hickoryhill <hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx> o: pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ent: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 22:55:40 -0000 (UTC) ubject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: I am what I am Again, with all due respect, there may be some who feel that defeating 400 in our own breed is more noteworthy than defeating a few in your own breed than efeating the winners of the other breeds combined. Also, it does not always ake 3 judges for a BIS. It is quite possible that you have the same judge doing Breed and Group, or maybe even Breed and BIS, Group AND BIS, thus only taking 2 udges to attain a BIS. Does this make the win less significant, not in my pinion, and probably not in the opinions of many others. I guess I am puzzled t this constant diatribe that takes place about what win is most important, tc. In MY ideal world, my GV, GVX or Select would be of the caliber to be ppreciated not only by those within my breed, but by those judges who are not n our breed, but admire a well bred and well structured GSD. ----- Original Message ----- rom: Paula M. Cooke <pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx> o: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ent: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 22:10:17 -0000 (UTC) ubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: I am what I am Several people did say almost exactly what you are saying, "so what, it is only n all-breed show, it isn't as good as going Select at a National!!!" Yes, I was deflated. BTW, Best in Show did not take only one judge. It took three and dogs defeated ere many more than at any National. aula, 52 days and counting Home of Best in Show, Best in Specialty Show, Multi-Group Winning, GSDCA Dual itle Award Recipient, AKC JAM/AOE, International and American Champion, Grand hampion Asgard Harley Davidson v Plamark, HT, PT, CGC, TC, HIC, OFA CHIC #64047 (Hips, Elbows, Cardiac, & Thyroid), DNA tested clear of the long-coat factor. 1 Male German Shepherd Dog in the Country, #4 German Shepherd Dog in the ountry, as of 7/31/10 (Canine Chronicles) First male German Shepherd Dog rand Champion. --------- Original Message ---------- rom: Hickoryhill <hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx> o: pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx c: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ubject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: I am what I am ate: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 21:48:16 +0000 (UTC) Hi Paula, I came about this thread a bit late as I was at work, however, with ll due respect,I am not quite sure I follow you here. The GV or GVX title is ust a fancy way the GSDCA says Best of Breed or Best Opp. Sex. The forementioned titles can be awarded at any specialty or all-breed show and eing a champion is not a requirement, I think you know that. To say that ecause only one judge awards the title at the national, therefore it doesn't ank as high as a dog finishing, would be like saying any judge that gave you OB, or a group win or a BIS really didn't mean as much or wasn't a ignificant win since only one judge was standing in the center of the ring. I on't really think that is what you were implying, that is sort of the erception, though. Remember how excited you were when Harley went BIS? Think bout how deflated you would feel if someone said "so what not a big deal, its nly one judge." 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