All of you! Please stop this. It is senseless. . We should all be dedicated to the breed and who cares where we show them.!!!! This is the best breed in the world but if we don't stop the bickering and concentrate on the dogs we are doomed. The time is approaching....it may be here... for a crisis for our breed and club. Why are some fighting over this when PETA, legislation issues, puppy mills and dealers such as the HUNTE Corp. are on the radar? People that are running for the Board should spend their time reading the By-Laws and the P&P. If these had been followed we would not have many of the current problems. People that are running for the Board have to stop listening to one side or another and being filled up with misconceptions and misinformation and down right lies! Posting something... to any list.... does not make it true! For the breed, Joan 17500 Haskins Rd. Chagrin Falls, Ohio 44023d Home & Fax: 440-543-9165 Cell: 440-759-4119 ________________________________ From: Hickoryhill <hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: Paula Cooke <pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx>; showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 7:33:20 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: I am what I am ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Hickoryhill <hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 22:55:40 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: I am what I am Again, with all due respect, there may be some who feel that defeating 400 in your own breed is more noteworthy than defeating a few in your own breed than defeating the winners of the other breeds combined. Also, it does not always take 3 judges for a BIS. It is quite possible that you have the same judge doing Breed and Group, or maybe even Breed and BIS, Group AND BIS, thus only taking 2 judges to attain a BIS. Does this make the win less significant, not in my opinion, and probably not in the opinions of many others. I guess I am puzzled at this constant diatribe that takes place about what win is most important, etc. In MY ideal world, my GV, GVX or Select would be of the caliber to be appreciated not only by those within my breed, but by those judges who are not in our breed, but admire a well bred and well structured GSD. ----- Original Message ----- From: Paula M. Cooke <pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 22:10:17 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: I am what I am Several people did say almost exactly what you are saying, "so what, it is only an all-breed show, it isn't as good as going Select at a National!!!" Yes, I was deflated. BTW, Best in Show did not take only one judge. It took three and dogs defeated were many more than at any National. Paula, 52 days and counting Home of Best in Show, Best in Specialty Show, Multi-Group Winning, GSDCA Dual Title Award Recipient, AKC JAM/AOE, International and American Champion, Grand Champion Asgard Harley Davidson v Plamark, HT, PT, CGC, TC, HIC, OFA CHIC #64047 (Hips, Elbows, Cardiac, & Thyroid), DNA tested clear of the long-coat factor. #1 Male German Shepherd Dog in the Country, #4 German Shepherd Dog in the Country, as of 7/31/10 (Canine Chronicles) First male German Shepherd Dog Grand Champion. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Hickoryhill <hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: I am what I am Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 21:48:16 +0000 (UTC) Hi Paula, I came about this thread a bit late as I was at work, however, with all due respect,I am not quite sure I follow you here. The GV or GVX title is just a fancy way the GSDCA says Best of Breed or Best Opp. Sex. The aforementioned titles can be awarded at any specialty or all-breed show and being a champion is not a requirement, I think you know that. To say that because only one judge awards the title at the national, therefore it doesn't rank as high as a dog finishing, would be like saying any judge that gave you BOB, or a group win or a BIS really didn't mean as much or wasn't a significant win since only one judge was standing in the center of the ring. I don't really think that is what you were implying, that is sort of the perception, though. Remember how excited you were when Harley went BIS? Think about how deflated you would feel if someone said "so what not a big deal, its only one judge." 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