Hi Paula, I came about this thread a bit late as I was at work, however, with all due respect,I am not quite sure I follow you here. The GV or GVX title is just a fancy way the GSDCA says Best of Breed or Best Opp. Sex. The aforementioned titles can be awarded at any specialty or all-breed show and being a champion is not a requirement, I think you know that. To say that because only one judge awards the title at the national, therefore it doesn't rank as high as a dog finishing, would be like saying any judge that gave you BOB, or a group win or a BIS really didn't mean as much or wasn't a significant win since only one judge was standing in the center of the ring. I don't really think that is what you were implying, that is sort of the perception, though. Remember how excited you were when Harley went BIS? Think about how deflated you would feel if someone said "so what not a big deal, its only one judge." C ----- Original Message ----- From: Paula M. Cooke <pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 00:01:52 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: I am what I am All it takes is just one AKC licensed judge to give a GSDCA Select, a Grand Victor, and/or a Grand Victrix award. The dog doesn't even have to be previously pointed, let alone a champion!! It takes MORE than just ONE AKC licensed judge to award an AKC Champion, an AKC Grand Champion, a CD, a RN, or any Herding title!! I guess if one likes to take the easy route to an over-inflated "title", more power to them. Paula, 53 days and counting Home of Best in Show, Best in Specialty Show, Multi-Group Winning, GSDCA Dual Title Award Recipient, AKC JAM/AOE, International and American Champion, Grand Champion Asgard Harley Davidson v Plamark, HT, PT, CGC, TC, HIC, OFA CHIC #64047 (Hips, Elbows, Cardiac, & Thyroid), DNA tested clear of the long-coat factor. #1 Male German Shepherd Dog in the Country, #4 German Shepherd Dog in the Country, as of 7/31/10 (Canine Chronicles) First male German Shepherd Dog Grand Champion. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: ELG440@xxxxxxx Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 19:46:39 EDT Subject: I am what I am ...............The all breed clubs can't award a Select in our own breed. They can't pick a Grand Victor or Grand Victrix................. Evan Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4c6dc62fa00637c3a5bst01duc ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================