[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: I am in awe
- From: Colleen Donnelly <gsdsforlife@xxxxxxxx>
- To: firethorntemple@xxxxxxxxx, ELG440@xxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 03:15:24 -0800 (PST)
I fully agree with you Tom. 100%
Sometimes those that are wrapped up in careers and numbers, forget the
individual. The "soul" of the argument is lost and gone.
It becomes a "I win" and "you lose". Especially in court.
Evan, your client learned his technique in Mexico....." a few years ago". ( is
that 2. 10, 20 years? )
Come on man, an air bubble to the heart....."and that method worked quickly".
That is an extremely painful and LONG way to die. That is 7-10 minutes of
lingering in pain. Gasping. If not longer. Did you research that?? The Mexican
technique?
I am mortified.
Evan you said "There is no easy answer, and while it sounds wonderful to have
no kill
shelters, and keep every animal alive and happy, some times it is just
not
that
simple."
Evan, remember, you are speaking on a message board, not in a court room. That
sounds like the end of a closing argument
I wonder if you foster dogs for rescue, or sponsor, or partake in any rescue
venue hands on. Besides donating money.
It's easy to give money. But do you actually partake in the "nitty gritty". Or,
did you ever?
And can I assume you would take in any dog from your line that was needing to
rest till he found a home? Or pay for boarding?And Veterinary help?
And hell, I guess I ask this of everyone. Would you? Do you?
Colleen Donnelly
?Do your little bit of good where you are; it?s those little bits of good put
together that overwhelm the world.?~~Archbishop Desmond Tutu "All that is
necessary for the triumph of evil, is that good people do nothing."~~Edmund
Burke
----- Original Message ----
From: Tom Elkins <firethorntemple@xxxxxxxxx>
To: ELG440@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 10:14:26 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: I am in awe
You say,"...he was reasonable when he felt that a dog hit by a
car,about to
die,should not cost him thirty dollars or so,to put down." I think
that is
a deplorable position.Vets make LOTS of money caring for pets.Why
shouldn't
the vet in question[or any other vet] be willing to give a little
something
back to show some compassion and proper medical technique to a
suffering,
dying animal ? Is it wisdom to measure everything in dollars and cents
?
tom elkins
Firethorn Temple
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Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] I am in awe
In a message dated 11/16/07 7:55:48 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx writes:
Euthanasia is a poor answer to over population. But at times it is
necessary
for a variety of causes. In those cases it is up to the community to
make
sure the education is there and the support is there to make certain
those
methods are appropriate.
A few years ago, I represented a vet who used as a method to kill
animals
an
empty infusion bag. He would insert a needle into the vein, and then
attach
an empty bag, and crush the bag to introduce an air bubble into the
heart to
kill the animal.
He learned this method in Mexico at vet school, and used it on strays
that
had been brought to his clinic after being hit by a car, or injured,
that he
could not save. He didn't believe the cost of anesthesia was needed,
and
that the method worked quickly with no cost to the clinic.
I lost that case, his license was suspended. I understood his position,
and
even realized that he was reasonable when he felt that a dog hit by a
car,
about to die, should not cost him thirty dollars or so, to put down.
There is no easy answer, and while it sounds wonderful to have no kill
shelters, and keep every animal alive and happy, some times it is just
not
that
simple.
I have no answers, but I do recognize the questions.
Evan (http://www.asgardgsd.com/)
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