One of the things I am working on in my breeding program is ears that come up more quickly and that don't require taping. I had a litter 9 months ago (my last litter... I am a big breeder).... all the puppies ears came up on their own... had perfect ear sets... and were strong. This litter was very (I repeat VERY) linebred (BIM Ch Pete of Fran-Jo ROM 4,4,4-3 Sel Ch Survival's Eclipse 5,4-3, Ch Fran-Jo's Lexus of Norberge ROM 4,3-2). Does this mean I have corrected my dilemma with taping ears???? NOT It does mean however; that I may be able to use these puppies in the future to help correct ears in my line. Since I have been very fortunate with the health of all my linebred dogs, I don't necessarily think the answer lies with an outcross. It lies, I am thinking, in the judicious breeding within the line. I am considering several outcross breedings for the future but not because of problems I am getting but instead because I see things in other lines I want. If my bitch produced health problems bred into the line I SURELY wouldn't outcross her... I'd spay her and get myself another bitch. Fred Migliori once told us on the list about an inbreeding experiment he did many years ago. He said the way to avoid problems was to pick the STRONGEST and healthiest of your line to inbreed. Joan Ford told me yesterday that if you see that there were problems in an inbred or linebred litter.... stop it right there..... and don't breed those dogs further in ANY way. In fact, I am more afraid to outcross than I am to linebreed because I know what I have....with an outcross I don't necessarily know what I am bringing in that I DON'T want. The things I may gain from an outcross are readily apparent in any dog I might chose to breed my bitch to. It's the things I can't see that scare me. But there are some awesome dogs out there who are producing few problems and gorgeous puppies. I've done my homework on the dogs that interest me and I am excited about the future. Gary Lewis Who is a much better producer than he was a show dog. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================