No matter what anyone else is doing in their breeding program each individual has to answer to themselves when it is all said and done. Hopefully all the DNA makers will help everyone to make better educated breeding decisions. And we could possibly wipe out some of the problems we have. But we must never get away from structure. I want a shepherd that looks like one and moves like they should. I think we've all seen the dog that we didn't think was a purebred and found out that it was. And that's not just our breed. J.J.s Juanita -----Original Message----- From: Juanita [mailto:jjsgsd@xxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 7:25 PM To: 'RckyIizard@xxxxxxx'; 'showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: RE: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: How to destroy the breed in three generations Way to go. -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of RckyIizard@xxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 8:53 PM To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: How to destroy the breed in three generations In a message dated 12/7/2004 9:25:46 PM Mountain Standard Time, Gsdman2@xxxxxxx writes: or ... They will avoid any dog carrying a marker for DM, like the plague, unaware that they risk lopping off chunks of the gene pool in the process. Which do you think they will choose? --------------------------------------------- So...if I avoid a stud dog who has DM, I'm causing a problem because of the gene pool? I don't think so. If 90% of the stud dogs out there carried DM, maybe. Sorry, I just ain't one of these people who will breed to a dog with a serious health issue in the hope of getting one or 2 superstars--and to heck with what happens to the rest of the babies. I'd never tell anyone else how to breed but I have my priorities, and they are HEALTH and TEMPERAMENT...first. Liz in Utah puppy page updated 11/2/04--exciting litter on the way! http://hometown.aol.com/rckyiizard/index.html ======================================================================== ==== POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ======================================================================== ==== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================