Our first male was about 3/4 German and we lost him to DM at 11 years of age. We lost his daughter with DM at around 10 years of age and one of her daughters went with the same thing at about the same age. Our Lori's daughter, Crystaridge's Absolute Miracle, CD (remember her???) <G> just died of old age. Was getting a bit wobbly towards the end, but it wasn't DM ---- well, certainly didn't look like it. She was well over 15. I'm getting a bit wobbly too, and I don't have DM. It's out there and unfortunately we don't usually KNOW that it is there until these dogs have produced. It would be a wonderful thing if they can finally get DNA markers for this insidiuous problem. The part of this that is so very sad is the fact that these dogs are as healthy as can be, and if they were humans they would go into a wheelchair to live out their lives. Yes, I know, some get hooked up to those carts, which are wonderful, but they don't work for dogs that are in a location such as we are in. Sylvia Crystaridge German Shepherds http://www.geocities.com/crystaridgegsd/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <Doctrcorgi@xxxxxxx> To: <Vontan@xxxxxxx> Cc: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 3:40 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: How to destroy the breed in three generations > Ladies, ladies...relax a bit. DM usually is only a health threat at 10 plus > years....The juvenile form starting at 4 months does exist, but these dogs are > usually classified as having poor ligamentation and later gain enough > strength to become SELECT dogs...I have names... > Most likely all American pedigrees will be found to carry this problem..so > please don't start another frenzy over this... > > We have enough people who love to creat sensationalism in the shepherd > world... > > I hope we soon have this problem mapped out, and that I am WRONG about its > prevelance.. > > Chuck Kriuger DVM > www.dockruger.com > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================