also to consider - was it professionally handled or owner handled, did they know which Judges prefer certain types. And if the owner enjoys showing and the dog enjoys beening shown, what difference does it make. As you said this is for the owner to decide. What may be a waste of money for one owner may be fun for another. JMHO Morgan Barbara or DTA Amidon <amidon@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: It was just brought up that some breeders were discussing how a certain Champion took 35 shows to finish??And should a breeder show that much to finish a dog??That in my opinion is entirely up to the owner ..Maybe the dog was not in condition most of the time maybe it was a hard luck dog,,But mostly it is the business of whoever owns the dog..Not for me to Judge.I know of a dog that was shown 60times..I wouldnt spend that money but then it is still the business of the owner..Also I only worry about my own dogs and not what someone else is doing.. www.amber-german-shepherds.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ Morgan and His Angels Precious, OFA Princess, CGC, TDI, GSDCA Health Award --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================