because the coat of an aussie is quite, quite different than a long coated GSD....I've had them both, apples an oranges. The bottom line is, if we want to remove all faults out of the standard, so be it. Meanwhile, lets be the stewards of the breed we are supposed to be an adhere to the current standard. * Ileana * Love me, love my dogs. In a message dated 6/20/2012 2:56:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bedkar@xxxxx writes: I'm well aware of that...my point is.....long coats are not a particular probem for other herding breeds,,,why judge it so harshly in GSD. Just trying to put things in perspective. Kay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Fox" <campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx> To: wernersommers@xxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:43:06 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: How does this help them win. Different breeds. Different standards. � Joan F. Fox website: �http://www.campaignersgsds.com 17500 Haskins Rd. Chagrin Falls, Ohio 44023 Cell: 440-759-4119 >________________________________ > From: Werner Sommers <wernersommers@xxxxxxxxx> >To: "showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 1:09 PM >Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: How does this help them win. > >You are fast. > >Werner >http://imagegermanshepherds.com/�; IMG akc Reg'd. >�BISS Am/Can CH. Scher-Lo's Mr Karizma HIC.OFA h&e >Am.CH. Hadori's Samantha OFA h&e >B.O.F CH. Pointed, Lorien's Play By Play OFA h&e/DM. > > > > > >________________________________ >From: "bedkar@xxxxx" <bedkar@xxxxx> >To: pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx >Cc: DOGSRLUV@xxxxxxx; spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 12:58 PM >Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: How does this help them win. >� >Hummmmm!� I wonder what they think about the coats on Rough Collies, Bearded collies, >Border Collies, Shetland Sheepdogs, Briards, Australian Shepherds, OES...just to name a few. >Maybe they do their herding thing indoors. > >Kay > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Peggy" <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx> >To: DOGSRLUV@xxxxxxx, spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:30:36 AM >Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: How does this help them win. > >I think some judges do weigh faults...there are also some who think a long >coat is more faulty because it can become waterlogged...not good on a dog >meant to work outdoors.............. > >�� y'all go on with the argument......it's fun to read. > >Peggy >-- >-Kay Reamensnyder and Betty Doerpinghaus >-Home of Bedkar German Shepherds >-AKC Breeders of Merit >- bedkar@xxxxx >-Visit our Website: http://www.bedkargsd.com/ > > > > >=========================================================================== POST is Copyrighted 2011.� All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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