In UKC they allow pure bred dogs to be crossed with other breeds to strengthen the overall dogs. As long as registration is kept, the dogs are not to be shown in conformation, but they keep track of the lines, and after 5 generations of pure breeding again, the dogs can be shown again. This allows for healthier dogs, and often a loss of many undesirable traits such as genitic disease. With all the problems our dogs have, I have considered going to a Mal, or short coated Collie, to get something in the lines that would dilute the mega, bloat, and many other diseases of genetic predisposition. There are just too many. Our dogs come from a very few original dogs and to make things worse, at least twice our dogs have been pushed through a pin hole of one single dog. The results are not favorable in many ways. Don't, please!!!!! attack me, this is my OPINION. And it is soliciated, as is everyone's who is not glued to the ring at the National. So this is what I think. We should breed outside our own breed, and back in. There was a study done with Dalmations, they used black Lab's and after 5 generations, the Dal's looked like Dal's, and not a trace of Lab could be found at all. But the deafness and other specific issues were cut out too. It was a good thing. Now if AKC is considering allowing cross breds to be registered with an IPL number just for obedience and agility and dance, what do we care? What possible affect will that have on us? Really? So some obedience classes at shows might be bigger, or might need to have more than one ring and judge, not a problem as I see it. Better than giving Hunte a carte blanche, maybe? Rather than jump up and scream, be sure of the rules and the reason before we start to panic on this one. It likely is not going to be a problem for us, and it might allow us to make our dogs healthier in the long run. It is people like Hunte that we need to keep out of our precious clubs. they are the danger, as they see our carefully bred and nurtured dogs as a comidity to be sold for a price but never really cared for. sheila Terry Cochran <fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: I am totally against this. We were talking about this at herding class the other day. If the AKC is going to become a mutt club then the Parent Club had better start there own registry because the AKC will no longer mean much. I wonder if the AKC is in that much financial trouble? Gee maybe we could start a GSD X club. Terry Kathaleen Strong wrote: I received a call from the AKC yesterday. I thought oh goodie, information on my application. Nope, it was a survey. They asked me 5 questions --- ALL pertaining to the following: Would I be in favor of the AKC starting a service that allows MIXED BREED DOGS to be "registered". For mixed breed dogs to be eligible for competition in AKC events. I don't know about the rest of you, but I thought the whole point of all KENNEL CLUBS was to promote the breeding and perfection of the PUREBRED DOG. I sure hope that someone at the National takes Carmen by the hand and tells him he better get that organization under control! I mean for pete's sake! First this Petland thing, then this Hunte thing and now "mixed breed" dogs? From the AKC Website: AKC Mission Statement The American Kennel Club is dedicated to upholding the integrity of its Registry, promoting the sport of purebred dogs and breeding for type and function. Founded in 1884, the AKCR and its affiliated organizations advocate for the purebred dog as a family companion, advance canine health and well-being, work to protect the rights of all dog owners and promote responsible dog ownership. AKC 's Objective: . Advance the study, breeding, exhibiting, running and maintenance of purebred dogs. AKC's Core Values: * We love purebred dogs * We are committed to advancing the sport of the purebred dog * We are dedicated to maintaining the integrity of our Registry * We protect the health and well-being of all dogs * We cherish dogs as companions * We are committed to the interests of dog owners * We uphold high standards for the administration and operation of the AKC * We recognize the critical importance of our clubs and volunteers Hate to say it, but WTF is going on at the AKC? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Kathaleen Strong - Inflight Kennels Reg'd - Breeders of: 1995 US GV, AOE-1996 US GVx, Jubilee ROM http://inflight.cnc.net Website creations available - Email me directly ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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