Peggy writes: "If there are agouti-coloured GSDs, we'd call them sables, too, probably." Sables *are* agouti-colored GSD's. "Agouti" is the proper term for sable. Paulette McGuirt, GSDCA Member Wellborn-Allemande German Shepherds Qui Me Amat, Amat et Canem Meam ----- Original Message ----- From: "pmick12" <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <rautter001@xxxxxxxxxxx>; "showgsd-l digest users" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 11:02 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Horand - grey or sable? I think it's safe to say that we call all greys "sable," but we don't call all sables grey." People have described dogs as red sables, black sables, silver sables, greys, and browns. If there are agouti-coloured GSDs, we'd call them sables, too, probably. And some sable dogs look grey sometimes, brown other times, and almost b/t other times. They're all still sables. Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Utter" <rautter001@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Why is it thought that the color "grey" was the same as 'sable'? > Generally speaking, 'grey' is a solid pale color while 'sable' appears > to have other color hairs mixed in. Is this simply semantics or is > there a difference? i.e. 'grey' mare - not a 'sable' mare. When > I paint 'grey', I use one color and if I want 'sable' I would use > other colors along with. Wolves are spoken of as 'grey' and not > 'sable'. I've seen 'grey' wolves and they don't appear to look like > our sable dogs. So, why isn't it possible that Horand was simply a > 'grey' dog (wolf grey). Sable could have evolved from that the same > as the black and tan and other darker sables etc. Just my > questioning. > Anne ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================