[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Horand - grey or sable?

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  • To: "pmick12" <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "showgsd-l digest users" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:23:49 -0400

Peggy writes:  "If there are agouti-coloured GSDs, we'd call them sables, too, 
probably."

Sables *are* agouti-colored GSD's.  "Agouti" is the proper term for sable.



Paulette McGuirt, GSDCA Member
Wellborn-Allemande German Shepherds
Qui Me Amat, Amat et Canem Meam


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "pmick12" <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <rautter001@xxxxxxxxxxx>; "showgsd-l digest users" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 11:02 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Horand - grey or sable?


I think it's safe to say that we call all greys "sable," but we don't call 
all sables
grey."
  People have described dogs as red sables, black sables, silver sables, 
greys, and browns.   If there are agouti-coloured GSDs, we'd call them 
sables, too, probably.

And some sable dogs look grey sometimes, brown other times, and almost b/t 
other times.  They're all still sables.

        Peggy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Utter" <rautter001@xxxxxxxxxxx>

> Why is it thought that the color "grey" was the same as 'sable'?
> Generally speaking, 'grey' is a solid pale color while 'sable' appears
> to have other color hairs mixed in.   Is this simply semantics or is
> there a difference?    i.e.  'grey' mare - not a 'sable' mare.   When
> I paint 'grey', I use one color and if I want 'sable' I would use
> other colors along with.    Wolves are spoken of as 'grey' and not
> 'sable'.  I've seen 'grey' wolves and they don't appear to look like
> our sable dogs.    So, why isn't it possible that Horand was simply a
> 'grey' dog (wolf grey).    Sable could have evolved from that the same
> as the black and tan and other darker sables etc.    Just my
> questioning.
> Anne
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