[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Hope - RUDE PEOPLE ARE NOT THE NORM

  • From: Terry Cochran <terrycochran97756@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: D Living Legend <inquestgsd@xxxxxxx>, "geschette@xxxxxxx" <geschette@xxxxxxx>, "stormy435@xxxxxxxxx" <stormy435@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 16:41:55 -0700 (PDT)

Hey Girlfriend, If they ain't talking about you, you aren't winning. That might 
be another reason younger smarter people avoid the conformation ring :0)
Terry
 
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 From: D Living Legend <inquestgsd@xxxxxxx>
To: terrycochran97756@xxxxxxxxx; geschette@xxxxxxx; stormy435@xxxxxxxxx 
Cc: izaackerman@xxxxxxxxxxxx; ELG440@xxxxxxx; Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2012 4:23 PM
Subject: Hope -  RUDE PEOPLE ARE NOT THE NORM
  

One reason we are divided is that there are many different groups.....and tons 
of lies flying around.  This weekend I have heard so many stories of things I 
am being accused of doing, I have no idea where I had the time, with growing a 
business that is expanding, taking care of a family and the dogs, traveling 
with my husband.......I had no idea!!   When people learn that for them to 
move up they don't need to take others down, things will improve.

Oh, yeah, and the previous "handler" going around talking crap about my 
dog....you were outed today, funny how you weren't there when I came looking 
for you.  

Homey don't play that.

Ileana
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Cochran <terrycochran97756@xxxxxxxxx>
To: geschette <geschette@xxxxxxx>; Stormy Hope <stormy435@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: izaackerman <izaackerman@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ELG440@xxxxxxx> <ELG440@xxxxxxx>; 
<Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sat, Aug 4, 2012 4:20 pm
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: RUDE PEOPLE ARE NOT THE NORM


One reason is that the GSD is a breed that is divided by many different groups. 
WDA, Sch USA, All Breed and Specialty.  Performance entries are up because 
people can handle their own dogs. We decided years ago that in the specialty 
ring we wanted the dogs presented in a way that most owners can not do. Showing 
dogs is mostly for the old folks, there are few young people that are 
interested 
in conformation showing. If the judges considered an owner handled dog we 
couldn't do it anyway. The specialty ring will probably die out with the rest 
of 
us.  Maybe they will make a video game out of the sport.  Dogs racing around 
the 
ring with crazy old farts running. hobbleling, waving rags, and blowing 
whistles. The fastest one wins enough points to purchase a faster, leaner 
handler with great knees :0) Something for use to do is assisted living.
Terry
 
  ________________________________ From: Greg Eschette <geschette@xxxxxxx>
To: Stormy Hope <stormy435@xxxxxxxxx> 
Cc: "izaackerman@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <izaackerman@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; "<ELG440@xxxxxxx>" 
<ELG440@xxxxxxx>; "<Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>" <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2012 11:25 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: RUDE PEOPLE ARE NOT THE NORM Not sure in the areas 
y'all live in. 
But, Golden Retriever, Doberman  entries are up. And that is a handler driven 
breed.  Greg
Sent from my iPhone On Aug 4, 2012, at 1:22 PM, Stormy Hope 
<stormy435@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Greg, I know that other breeds have declining 
entries, too... but not to the 
degree that the GSD entries have declined.  What do you suppose that reason 
could be?
> 
> Stormy Hope
> 
> 
> On Aug 4, 2012, at 11:14 AM, Greg Eschette wrote:
> 
> People it's not handlers fault entries are down.
> First, if you want a certain handler and they quote you a price, then you pay 
or find some one else. Or don't show!
> Now, I think it is the economy more than anything . People are not going to 
spend money on showing dogs, with other important bills they have to pay. They 
need to take care of their children first.
> Unfortunately for me where I live there are hardly anyone that shows German 
Shepherds. Iza, thanks but I am not moving.
> I think some issues that I hear at shows,
> This judge will put up their friends. And their friend is judging at this 
> show 
with this time period.
> Or, why did that dog/bitch win after it backed away on the temperament test?
> I think I have a right to express my opinion with all the handler bashing out 
there. And we still 2 months from nationals.
> I am blessed with a talent. I think I should be paid more. But, you would 
think for what I charge at would have 100 clients and at dog shows every 
weekend.
> Linda and I are blessed with a great business. So, I don't need to go to dog 
shows every weekend. There 4 shows 45 minutes from my house this weekend. Didnt 
want to waste my clients money on those judges. So, I took my family to Orange 
Beach, Al. And I am on the beach as I write this e mail.
> Point blank the few clients I have know I want waste their time or money 
> going 
to shows I don't feel comfortable with the judges.
> Entries have gone up, show site rental had gone up, fuel travel expenses are 
all up.
> But it's the handlers fault entries are down?
> Don't think so.
> 
> Greg
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 4, 2012, at 12:08 PM, "Iza Ackerman" <izaackerman@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Evan - you are very fortunate - I can't wait to see the Review.   I think
> the key word is "lady and/or gentleman" and "class"
> 
> Iza Kabuska-Ackerman
> http://www.karizmashepherds.com/ > AKC Breeder of Merit
> Breeder of a Canadian Grand Victor, an American Grand Victor,
> and many more beautiful dogs !
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ELG440@xxxxxxx > Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 11:58 AM
> To: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] RUDE PEOPLE ARE NOT THE 
> NORM
> 
> 
> In a message dated 8/4/12 5:53:33 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> izaackerman@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> 
> 
> I donâ��t  know what crazy ass mixed up world that handler is living 
> in, but
> I can tell  you, THEY ARE ALL PRETTY MUCH ALIKE (with only one or two
> exceptions) And, I  know that reading this, one or two
> handlers/conditioners/keeping the show dog  people are all having a laugh at
> this ââ?¬â?? ââ?¬Å?Awh . . . Iza is
> complaining about  usââ?¬Â  Pretty sad . . . ââ?¬â?? ââ?¬Å?Oh, my, 
> entries are down,
> people arenââ?¬â?¢t showing  ââ?¬â?? I wonder why ? ââ?¬â?? it must be 
> the economyâ�
> Yea, right .
> .
> 
> 
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