Hey Girlfriend, If they ain't talking about you, you aren't winning. That might be another reason younger smarter people avoid the conformation ring :0) Terry ________________________________ From: D Living Legend <inquestgsd@xxxxxxx> To: terrycochran97756@xxxxxxxxx; geschette@xxxxxxx; stormy435@xxxxxxxxx Cc: izaackerman@xxxxxxxxxxxx; ELG440@xxxxxxx; Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2012 4:23 PM Subject: Hope - RUDE PEOPLE ARE NOT THE NORM One reason we are divided is that there are many different groups.....and tons of lies flying around. This weekend I have heard so many stories of things I am being accused of doing, I have no idea where I had the time, with growing a business that is expanding, taking care of a family and the dogs, traveling with my husband.......I had no idea!!  When people learn that for them to move up they don't need to take others down, things will improve. Oh, yeah, and the previous "handler" going around talking crap about my dog....you were outed today, funny how you weren't there when I came looking for you. Homey don't play that. Ileana -----Original Message----- From: Terry Cochran <terrycochran97756@xxxxxxxxx> To: geschette <geschette@xxxxxxx>; Stormy Hope <stormy435@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: izaackerman <izaackerman@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ELG440@xxxxxxx> <ELG440@xxxxxxx>; <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sat, Aug 4, 2012 4:20 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: RUDE PEOPLE ARE NOT THE NORM One reason is that the GSD is a breed that is divided by many different groups. WDA, Sch USA, All Breed and Specialty. Performance entries are up because people can handle their own dogs. We decided years ago that in the specialty ring we wanted the dogs presented in a way that most owners can not do. Showing dogs is mostly for the old folks, there are few young people that are interested in conformation showing. If the judges considered an owner handled dog we couldn't do it anyway. The specialty ring will probably die out with the rest of us. Maybe they will make a video game out of the sport. Dogs racing around the ring with crazy old farts running. hobbleling, waving rags, and blowing whistles. The fastest one wins enough points to purchase a faster, leaner handler with great knees :0) Something for use to do is assisted living. Terry   ________________________________ From: Greg Eschette <geschette@xxxxxxx> To: Stormy Hope <stormy435@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: "izaackerman@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <izaackerman@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; "<ELG440@xxxxxxx>" <ELG440@xxxxxxx>; "<Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>" <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2012 11:25 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: RUDE PEOPLE ARE NOT THE NORM Not sure in the areas y'all live in. But, Golden Retriever, Doberman entries are up. And that is a handler driven breed. Greg Sent from my iPhone On Aug 4, 2012, at 1:22 PM, Stormy Hope <stormy435@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Greg, I know that other breeds have declining entries, too... but not to the degree that the GSD entries have declined. What do you suppose that reason could be? > > Stormy Hope > > > On Aug 4, 2012, at 11:14 AM, Greg Eschette wrote: > > People it's not handlers fault entries are down. > First, if you want a certain handler and they quote you a price, then you pay or find some one else. Or don't show! > Now, I think it is the economy more than anything . People are not going to spend money on showing dogs, with other important bills they have to pay. They need to take care of their children first. > Unfortunately for me where I live there are hardly anyone that shows German Shepherds. Iza, thanks but I am not moving. > I think some issues that I hear at shows, > This judge will put up their friends. And their friend is judging at this > show with this time period. > Or, why did that dog/bitch win after it backed away on the temperament test? > I think I have a right to express my opinion with all the handler bashing out there. And we still 2 months from nationals. > I am blessed with a talent. I think I should be paid more. But, you would think for what I charge at would have 100 clients and at dog shows every weekend. > Linda and I are blessed with a great business. So, I don't need to go to dog shows every weekend. There 4 shows 45 minutes from my house this weekend. Didnt want to waste my clients money on those judges. So, I took my family to Orange Beach, Al. And I am on the beach as I write this e mail. > Point blank the few clients I have know I want waste their time or money > going to shows I don't feel comfortable with the judges. > Entries have gone up, show site rental had gone up, fuel travel expenses are all up. > But it's the handlers fault entries are down? > Don't think so. > > Greg > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 4, 2012, at 12:08 PM, "Iza Ackerman" <izaackerman@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Evan - you are very fortunate - I can't wait to see the Review. I think > the key word is "lady and/or gentleman" and "class" > > Iza Kabuska-Ackerman > http://www.karizmashepherds.com/ > AKC Breeder of Merit > Breeder of a Canadian Grand Victor, an American Grand Victor, > and many more beautiful dogs ! > > -----Original Message----- > From: ELG440@xxxxxxx > Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 11:58 AM > To: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] RUDE PEOPLE ARE NOT THE > NORM > > > In a message dated 8/4/12 5:53:33 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > izaackerman@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > > > I donââ?¬â?¢t know what crazy ass mixed up world that handler is living > in, but > I can tell you, THEY ARE ALL PRETTY MUCH ALIKE (with only one or two > exceptions) And, I know that reading this, one or two > handlers/conditioners/keeping the show dog people are all having a laugh at > this ââ?¬â?? ââ?¬Å?Awh . . . Iza is > complaining about usââ?¬Â Pretty sad . . . ââ?¬â?? ââ?¬Å?Oh, my, > entries are down, > people arenââ?¬â?¢t showing ââ?¬â?? I wonder why ? ââ?¬â?? it must be > the economyââ?¬ > Yea, right . > . > > ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 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