I really have to laugh at those who feel they have to proclaim how honest they are???give me a break..That they dont look at the handlers etc etc...They must have a problem if they have to say it...I see the handlers does it mean they win NOO..The last national look and see how many top handlers won..I put up a male with an unknown black handler..I saw the handlers but it was the animals that we are Judging...Some think I am not honest you cannot change the way people think..That is their problem..some see only the dark I see the light..I see very little political Judging most do the best they can do..Some do not have an eye and never will ..If you breed good enough your dog will win..If you go to all breed show with unknown Judges you deserve what you get..I will show all breed specialty only under those who know a good dog...So start going to shows learn who is a good judge get a top handler who will groom the best show the best that is the way to win with THE BEST...I myself would never want to finish JUST A DOG...I want the ones that people come up to you and say I really like your dog...Oh and with down pasterns I would never breed to a dog that had the problem ..One of our Grand Victors had the problem stupidly I bred to him ..I had to replace 8 puppies THEY NEVER CAME UP..Have a safe and Happy New Year Barbara Amidon http://www.geocities.com/amberkennel ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================