and isn't that true of all products?? Even Colonel Saunders had his "secret" herbs and spices so that his KFC could not be replicated.. Actually, there is more to Hoka Mix than just the herbs Paul reports As per the website I ordered it from: Hokamix 30 - Hokamix is made up of natural minerals, trace elements, and vitamins obtained from herbs. Vitamins include: A, C, folic acid, K, B2, B3, B1, B12, E, B6, biotin, B5 (paniothenic acid). Minerals and trace elements include: calcium, phosphorous, sodium, magnesium, zinc, manganese, chromium, potassium, selenium, iodine, iron, and copper. Herbs include: alfalfa, almond powder, capsicum, woundwort, arnica, balm, cascara sagrada, couchgrass, chamomile, comfrey, dandelion, kelp, yellow dock, fennel, lavender, sage, and star anise. They don't hide behind latin nomenclature - they put it out there.. but ingredients are one thing, ratios are another - we all know that calcium, phosphorus, magnesium are essential minerals.. but give them in an incorrect ratio mix? you are courting disaster. I don't have a problem with proprietary formulas - that's someone else doing all the work and helps keep me form screwing it all up..As for cost, it's all relative.. Hoka Mix dosing is minute compared to other supplements like Peak, Vertex, Nupro etc..so your 1 lb goes a long way.. Sue Madlung - Shadowacre Reg'd German Shepherds http://www.shadowacre.com/biologic.htm for TESTIMONIALS Give your dogs the Ultimate in Nutritional Support! BiologicVETNx -the PERFECT supplementation for Raw Diets! http://www.biologicnr.com/biologicvetnx/ Contact Shadowacre for breeder program Information ----- Original Message ----- From: "RivendellP" <rivendellp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Showgsd-l" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 9:55 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Hokamix > Herbal Ingredient list of Hokamix > > Latin name > Common name > > Medicago Sativa > Alfalfa > > Capsicum frutescens > Cayenne > > Taraxacum officinale > Dandelion > > Prunus amygdalus > Almond powder > > Nereocystiss spp. > Kelp > > Laminaria spp > Kelp > > Agropyron repens > Couch or Dog grass > > Foeniculum vulgare > Fennel > > Lavandula off. > Lavender > > Salvia triloba > Sage > > Hokamix is a proprietary formula. Only the master herbalist who mixes this special blend knows the actual amounts of each herb. This is also true for many other products that protect their formulas and products from being copied by bootleggers or knock off artists. Coca-Cola® is a good example; the formula is a well-kept trade secret, and is not patented. > > Paul adds... > > I did some research on the product and found some interesting quotes about the product. However, look at the ingredient panel and it's $22 a lb. If you knew the "secret formula" you could go to the grocery store and buy fresh spices. > > > > Visit Rivendell on 'da web' at www.rivendellgsd.com > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================