No, I wasn't intentionally breaking the law, nor were the other folks who were forced to get rid of their animals. It doesn't matter, though, if you THOUGHT you were compliant. Still, you're breaking the law. My point is sometimes the townships mislead folks by allowing them to purchase licenses for multiple dogs, not realising that technically, according to the county, it is not legal. The other problem is this. Now, after living in your township for a few years and believing you're in compliance, do you take that chance to be county licensed when or if you become aware of the county rules? If you are turned down at that point, you will be required to get rid of the animals the township has allowed you to have for those years. Once you apply for that county conditional use permit, the township prints your intentions in the newspaper for all to see and complain about, whether they are affected by your kennel or not. Your town board is obligated to take into consideration, all opinions voiced at the town hall meeting, prior to taking a vote. I believe this is why many people in my area keep their mouths shut, keep their dogs quiet, and keep purchasing the licenses from the township knowing that they are technically breaking the law. Gina ROYAL T SHEPHERDS http://www.royaltshepherds.com Home of: Ch Covy Tucker Hill v Royal T's Edsel,CD,NA,CGC,HIC,OFA h/e/t/c Covy Tucker Hill's Marc Royal T,CD,CGC Royal T's Wildwood Maggie May,TT Stonekroft's Renaissance Royal T ----- Original Message ---- From: "pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx" <pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 12:22:00 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Hoader Raided*11 GSD's* outside of Baton Rogue UPDAT I don't have a clue what your point is in regards to my or Paulette's posts. Did you INTENTIONALLY break the law? If not, our posts have nothing to do with your situation. I think you are confused as to what I or Paulette wrote. Maybe Sally or Evan can assist in clarification. Sometimes we just plain need lawyers and embroiderers. :-) :-) Paula, 71 days and counting -- gina@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 22:05:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Royal T Shepherds <gina@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Hoader Raided*11 GSD's* outside of Baton Rogue UPDAT How about people like myself in townships where, if you go to the townhall, they will let you purchase as many dog licenses as you like. No one says there is a 2 dog limit, they just take your money ,.smile and say, "Have a good day". My real estate broker, who was informed specifically to look for areas that allow multiple dogs, assured me that my 8 acre hobby farm was just that. I went to the townhall, bought 5-10 dog licenses, depending on which year it was, and believed I was in compliance with the law. It was at a town hall meeting that I realised that the township rules were different than the county. Also, that the county rules RULE! Some poor dog owner, not unlike myself, received a complaint regarding the number of dogs on their property. Since they didn't have a proper "county" kennel license, they were ordered to decrease the number of dogs they owned within a specified amount of time, or face daily fines until compliance. I decided at that time to apply for a county kennel license, and found it VERY difficult. Looking back, I don't know if I would have gone through the hassle. While it's nice to know you are in compliance with all licensing regulations, I find it very frightening to think about bringing about all that attention to yourself, just to be turned down. I'm sure there are others in areas like myself that have the same situations. My dogs were licensed, had their rabies shots, and were well take care of. Yet still, because of rules beyond my township, my dogs could still be considered illegal. The laws sometimes are the reason for nonn-compliance, IMO. Gina ROYAL T SHEPHERDS http://www.royaltshepherds.com Home of: Ch Covy Tucker Hill v Royal T's Edsel,CD,NA,CGC,HIC,OFA h/e/t/c Covy Tucker Hill's Marc Royal T,CD,CGC Royal T's Wildwood Maggie May,TT Stonekroft's Renaissance Royal T ----- Original Message ---- From: "cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 7:51:49 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Hoader Raided*11 GSD's* outside of Baton Rogue UPDATE "Paula Cooke" <pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes: "... my post was about people PUTTING their dogs at risk by NOT following the law, intentionally." Paula, I know exactly what you're talking about... There's a long time breeder with some very nice dogs who almost lost them due to his trying to find a way to get around the county ordinances. This breeder's dogs are well taken care of, but he's almost lost them by not following the law. Several times, when the county came down on him, he had to scrabble desperately to "hide" a lot of his dogs with friends and family. When the "crisis" was over, he reclaimed the dogs. Someone would complain and the whole cycle started again... This last time, he was almost shut down for good. The stress was tremendous on the breeder and the dogs. I really felt bad for the dogs. Paulette McGuirt, GSDCA Member Allemande German Shepherd Dogs Qui Me Amat, Amat et Canem Meam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Cooke" <pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:25 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Hoader Raided*11 GSD's* outside of Baton Rogue UPDATE SALLY!!!! I agree with you about your situation, but, my post was about people PUTTING their dogs at risk by NOT following the law, intentionally. That is NOT what you did. You followed the law; you WERE law-abiding. You WERE following the law. Whatever would have happened if your husband didn't find the paper has NOTHING to do with my post. It would NOT have been a case of YOU NOT FOLLOWING THE LAW and putting your dogs at risk. I don't know how else to explain my point!! You are good; the people whose pets were confiscated were bad...they did NOT follow the law; you did!! I give up!!! Paula, 71 days and counting -- "sally" <dan-ann@xxxxxxxx> wrote: but heaven knows what would have happened if my husband didn't keep every scrap of paper. Sally www.embroiderybysally.org new designs ____________________________________________________________ Visit New England and experience Old World charm. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/Ioyw6i4uGF3l2EPw0I1Kiab90eKU78NvdGGFc8g1ujQAVkhjpxrfoK/ ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2007. 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