I am well aware that the gene is not at all similar.  I simply said that the folks that made the DQ THOUGHT it might be a health issue and now we know better.  BTW I have seen a true albino GSD and he was healthy, pretty and good tempered. I have judged white regional specialties in conjunction with their national and see that these folks are working very hard and making great headway in their breeding programs.  Still, AKC is not likely to make them a separate breed in the next century.  The Shiloh Shepherd and the King Shepherd consider themselves separate breeds, but it we'll have ice in Arabia before AKC recognizes them. LOL Carolyn ________________________________ From: "barbara17236@xxxxxxx" <barbara17236@xxxxxxx> To: carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx; Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] History of the white DQ The "white" gene in the GSD is not the same "white" gene seen in the Collie, Sheltie, Aussie, etc. It is not the same "white" gene seen in the Dobie. Therefore, the "white" GSD has the same health issues as its colored relatives, and no special health issues just related to the color "white".  I have been in white since 1971, and I have never seen, either in person or in picture, an albino PUREBRED "white" GSD. Yet, people still ask if my BROWN eyed, black nosed whites are albino????  The understanding of canine genetics has come along way since 1968.  All I use to hear is how the "white" is going to pale out the rich black and red coloring of the colored dogs. Well, since the "white" hasn't been allowed since 1968, how is the paling of rich colors, the large white chests, and white toes being explained today?  The story I was always told about why the white was DQed -  at one of the GSDCA Nationals, a white won the obedience top honors. Then, the rush was on to prevent that from happening again.  Barb H - PA   -----Original Message----- From: carolyn mckenna <carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tue, Aug 2, 2011 1:47 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] History of the white DQ At the time that the DQ for white came about, it was thought that white GSDs carried a health issue. �Many breeds do have health issues in the color white, and the "protectors" of our breed acted out of concern for that. �Perhaps they were correct in their beliefs; perhaps they were simply going with the findings in other breeds. �In many, many breeds there are serious issues with the color white; �Cardigan corgis may not have white surrounding the eyes; white collies must have color on the head; Shelties must not be predominately white; �Australian shepherds may not have white body patches; Pembrokes may not have white on the ears or body; and on and on. �This is due to the� fact that white on ears and eyes can be associated with deafness and blindness �as well as other issues (also true in cats ) and the standards are designed to control the incidence of white. �Other issues of color are related to health problems. �In the Dalmation, spots are mandatory, while patches are not allowed. �Perhaps the folks making the rules back� then were wrong or perhaps the breeders of our white dogs have eliminated those problems. �Who knows ? �I cannot understand the objection to white GSDs if that is the case. �OTOH, if they were to become a separate breed, whites could not be bred to colored dogs; they could if they were varieties. � Carolyn ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2011. 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