I also find the data on how many breedings it took to produce enough Champions to earn the ROM is extremely important. A male that was bred 30 times to earn the designation is not as impressive (to me) as one that only needed to be bred 10 times. of course, JMO Sandy At 04:04 PM 4/8/2009 -0500, you wrote: >Beryl -- I was for the most part in agreement with you about "stars" >(especially the finishing easily under specialty judges part) until you got >to the ROM part, and everyone may not (possible understatement) agree with >my opinion that the ROM is often a meaningless, misleading designation. In >many cases the champions that make their dams ROMs are very poor specimens >that finish in mediocre competition. "We finished Lulu yesterday, and that >made her mother Fifi ROM" doesn't mean much if Lulu and Fifi's other >champions are clunkers. Of course the ROM may also be a tremendous >achievement. I think it's all about, "WHO are the champions that he/she >produced?" > >tom elkins >Firethorn Temple >http://www.firethorntemple.com Sandra Kozub KcK Kennels http://iweb.tntech.edu/rkozub/kennel.htm ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================