My biggest fear may be that wherever there is a rule, there is a way around it. The more we look to a letter of law to control the membership just to keep Hunte and his profession out of our club, they will find a way around it, if they want to badly enough. Ask any accountant! sheila grnram415@xxxxxxx wrote: Again, isn't this apples and oranges? A handler or breeder can be considered a broker if they have clients for their pups/dogs or if they are purchasing said animals with a certain client in mind. That is not the same as a commercial breeder. The commercial breeder is someone who breeds only to sell to wholesalers or retailers. The wording may be semantics but also very important when defining it for the purposes of our club. Evan, this is where your expertise can help. The definitions must be clear so there is no confusion as to what is acceptable as a member of our club. Besides, would you or anyone on this List, buy from a true commercial breeder with the intent to resell a dog as a show dog for a client? I think not. Or, I hope not. -----Original Message----- From: dgshwpromo@xxxxxxxxx To: ELG440@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 2:22 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Here's an idea .AOLPlainTextBody { margin: 0px; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12px; color: #000; background-color: #fff; } .AOLPlainTextBody pre { font-size: 9pt; } .AOLInlineAttachment { margin: 10px; } .AOLAttachmentHeader { font: 11px arial; border: 1px solid #7DA8D4; background: #F9F9F9; } .AOLAttachmentHeader .Title { font: 11px arial; background: #B5DDFA; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px; } .AOLAttachmentHeader .FieldLabel { font: 11px arial; color: #000000; padding: 1px 10px 1px 9px; background: #F9F9F9; } .AOLAttachmentHeader .FieldValue { font: 11px arial; color: #000000; background: #F9F9F9; } .AOLAttachmentHeader a, .AOLImage a { color: #2864B4; text-decoration: none; } .AOLAttachmentHeader a:hover, .AOLImage a:hover { color: #2864B4; text-decoration: underline; } body { background-color: white; font-family: "Verdana"; font-size: 10pt; border: 0px; } p { margin: 0px; padding: 0px; } img.managedImg { width: 0px; height: 0px; } img.placeholder { width: 275px; height: 206px; background: #F4F4F4 center center no-repeat; border: 1px solid #DADAD6 !important; } No, handlers may sometimes buy pups with the intent that they have another client who will want to buy it. Cannot sell to wholesalers or retailers with commerical operations. sheila ELG440@xxxxxxx wrote: In a message dated 2/4/2007 10:24:50 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, Santanagsd1954@xxxxxx writes: I ALSO KEEP GOING BACK TO JUST PLAIN OLD- FASHIONED COMMON SENSE..EVERYONE IN THE WORLD KNOWS A WHOLESALE PUPPY MILL DOES NOT HAVE THE INTEREST OF THE CANINE WORLD AT HEART, BY VIRTUE OF THEIR ACTIONS.... PERIOD. It says, the interest of the breed, the breed is German shepherds. What if we said no one can be a member if they sell a dog, with the understanding that the buyer intends to resell the dog. It seems to me that is what we want. Who thinks that might create a problem? Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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