Three years ago I asked for assistance for the GSDC of Reno. We only have 4 members. We received a ton of financial help from donations from all over. The judge paid his own way. And I believe we had 5 pts. in dogs and 2 short for females. We did very well - we were able to pay for the show, dues and insurance for the next year and have $12.42 left over. Every other year of the last 10 I have paid out of my pocket to put on the show. This has ranged from $250 - $600. I really love putting on the show and the Golden State club putting on the dinner. It has been wonderful and we have always been supported at least the last 6 years with majors - most 4 pts. I try to have cute prizes, but really they are fairly cheap. I don't think it is overboard. The problem is I think a show and club should be able to support itself. I have sat at Petsmart and Petco to talk to everyone with a GSD. I have given flyers to several vets. I have had several people contact me or my Dad and we would have club meetings just for those people to never show up. I have been given advice on how to bring people in, I have been given advice on how to get businesses to give money or advertisements, I have been given advice on getting Purina or whoever to sponsor a show. How do explain to these people that you are advertising to 4 local people and 20-30 others from out of state who aren't going to spend money in their shops or that they already have their own dog food they have used for 40 years? Like Ileana said - The public is not interested in conformation and have no time or money to spare. They want to DO something with their dogs - like take it camping with their kids - take it to a ball game. If you all are not moving to Reno then I want every one of you on the list to send the GSDC of Reno $100 to support us<EG>. Reno will not be having a show this year. I can't afford it. I have some dogs I want to show and maybe hopefully a pup coming up. I will be supporting other shows - just not my own. Maybe next year after I win the lotto. I am going to do my best to keep the club open - what a responsibility - 30 years of a club on my shoulders - OUCH! It's all about me you know<LOL> Alycia ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================