I agree! I lost Wolf at 2 with EPI, His TLI was 0.7 we tried everything on him as well,with no luck... Texas A and M have raised the numbers. Bull is 4.0 I do have him on Prozyme and his stools are good now, but Bull is allergic to chicken that took a while to figure out! I feed him California Natural and Natures Varity's Raw beef and venison Your baby may have a food allergy too his numbers to not seem bad to me at all, Bull was never a ravious eater either still is not Good luck and please feel free to write me if I can give you anymore info I have on EPI Take care Deb Deb and her Boys Victory's Bullseye,TT.,CGC.,CD,ASCACD. Victory's Dubh Mac Tire, CGC(Wolf) 01/23/05-03/28/2007,lost to PAA/EPI ----- Original Message ---- From: Katherine Heckman <chgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: osmith@xxxxxxxxxxxx; ShowGSD-L <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:16:34 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Help with EPI My second GSD had EPI and no matter what supplement I used, her condition continued to worsen to the point her body started shutting down. The vet tried increasing the Viokase and it didn't seem to work. She had all the classic signs. Mushy, grey stool with a very distinctive smell, body weight would fluctuate, but she continued to loose. I went as far as to supplement her with pig pancreas to get the natural enzymes. Unfortunately, she only lived until she was 4yrs. old. I would not consider putting their dog on Viokase if his levels are within the normal range, but using the prozyme to supplement his nutrition and use a high quality, natural, even holistic food such as Eagle Pack or Wellness. Kathy Heckman "Life is too short for drama & petty things, so kiss slowly, laugh insanely, love truly & forgive quickly." > From: osmith@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L > ] Help with EPI> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 08:52:41 -0700> > I placed a pet > puppy whose owner has been told by her vet to use Viokase > after testing in > the low normal trypsin range. (5.7) He is 70# at 7 months > of age, does not > have a voracious appetite, and has soft stools only > occasionally. The > normal range is 5.0 to 35...does anyone know is this > really normal for > GSDs? Does anyone know if supplementing with > Viokase/Pancreazyme will > actually suppress pancreatic production? My thought > is to increase the > amount of Prozyme which he is getting already and wait on > any other > supplementation until, and if, he shows signs of nutritional > deficiency. > Any thoughts?> Has anyone supplemented with Viokase or Pancreazyme and had a > dog continue > to get worse?> > Thanks for any info you may have.> > Carrie> > Oak Ridge German Shepherds> Dedicated to the German Shepherd Dog> Signers of the GSDCA Breeders Code of Ethics. > > > ============================================================================> POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. 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