Aha, now THIS is my pet subject --- There was a woman and her group in Ohio -- Iva Wade originally who had a splendid pedigree service and was much cheaper than Mother AKC too. I used her service for many years. She passed and someone took over, but that's also been a good while ago so I'm not sure if they're still doing it. However, in my personal checking, I have always felt that only the first 3 & MAYBE at times, the 4th generation is what counts and designates the genes of the offspring. Now this is just me, from my study and experiences of breeding. Not everyone agrees, I'm sure, but it doesn't seem to be vital beyond that third generation of serious influence. JMO tho --- Norma no L ----- Original Message ----- From: <InquestGSD@xxxxxxx> To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 7:23 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Help needed with better pedigree database I know there are some brilliant people on this list that have a more complete pedigree database than I do. Even when ordering the "official" pedigree thru AKC, you will still miss the ROM, Sel, etc that are particular to our club/breed. I am interested in a better database, or is someone in the business of doing pedigrees? 5 or 7 generations will be ideal. Please reply here, as I have come across many with this same need. Thanks in advance. Ileana ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================