Joan: I read your post to the very end, it was long long, but very informative to us local yocals. I think that "transparency" is happening whether some like it or not! Thank you for your conciseness,clarity and committment to doing what's best for the Club. Tony C -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Joan Fox" <campaigners@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > If anyone has any further questions as to how this company worked with > myself and Nanci other than what I will post here please feel free to call > me. I will try not to leave anything out and will look up any answers in > my letter file, if needed. > > I will not respond to the misinformation on this list as it seems to serve > no purpose and I hope this helps set the record straight. > > 1) PAYMENT: We do not pay Helms/Briscoe. > > 2) CONVENTION CENTERS: They only have booked hotel/motel rooms for us. > > 2) MONEY SAVED FOR THE CLUB:They have gotten us much better rates at hotels > we have and will be using than I could get by going directly to the > hotel/motels and through the business meeting planners for them. They have > great leverage and have been responsible for many of the amenities this > Board has utilized and monies saved. > I double checked almost each one and they always had the lowest rate.This > was all done to save the club money and less work for Nanci and myself. > > 3) DOUBLE COVERAGE: They work directly with the CVB's, but have the > advantage of also being able to make other hotels/motels known to us. The > CVB's can only recommend hotels that are paying members of that group.. > Both Helms/Briscoe and the CVB's are given the requirements as listed in the > National Show Checklist as written by Nanci and Lea. This is what I was told > to work with and comply with where at all possible. This may be read in the > P&P on the GSDCA website in Section XII. > > 4) HILTON FACTS: The Hilton contract was not "shot down:" It expired as no > one on the Board knew about it. > Helms/Briscoe found out about it and also notified me that none of the other > proposed hotels had contracts and Fall is ski season in Utah. Hotels rooms > get scarce and very expensive. They then quickly contacted the hotels that > were on the list to get us what was proposed until the Show Chair could > see them. This was done as a safety measure. Nanci was privy to the mails. > She was unable to inspect the hotels/motels until April of this year > unfortunately and the list was reworked. > Thank goodness! It seems to me that all is well that ends well for the > members. These problems will not be repeated due to unusual circumstances in > transition. > H/Briscoe is,and was, agreeable that only hotels we are comfortable with be > booked. It is no ones fault that this was not able to be done until > recently. > Just to reiterate... this is not part of my job. > Nanci has the final say so on what hotels are used. I never saw them as I > deferred to her although I offered to go earlier if she wanted as we were > all concerned. > The Hilton contract had to be renewed by Jan. 2006 or be penalized. This was > reported at the October meeting. > Copies of the old contract were obtained by Helms/Briscoe and sent to Lew > and Nanci and myself. This problem was addressed by the Executive Committee > and then readdressed recently by Lew and Nanci. Luckily, what could have > been a disaster has been diverted. > Helms/Briscoe could not involve themselves in straightening out this > contract,as they Board wanted, as they were not part of the transaction. > Just to reiterate.. Helms/Briscoe did not recommend the hotels on the > original list. > > 5) When I visited the the over 20 show sites in the East, West, and Central > regions in a 16 month period........ I looked at motel/hotels each time at > sites that might be workable. There is no sense in considering a site > without this information. This usually entailed an added 2 day period to > each visit. With travel, a week is really needed to look at each site. > Helms/Briscoe and the local CVB's both helped with the room inspections. We > all worked together to find properties that were suitable as I sent them > what we required and as you can imagine I rejected many places. Our goal was > to find app. 500 dog friendly rooms at each one. That can be difficult as > many places were not willing to commit for 2 to 3 years out. The CVB's have > met with me on almost all the inspections. Any proposed hotels have been > investigated and H/B had contracts in place in case we did choose a site. > As rates at properties will rise over a 3 year period we had them agree to > quote today's prices to save the club and members money. > Allot of work and expense with no security that the Board would even > consider a site let alone visit or contract it. > > 6) Helms/Briscoe is being utilized by other National Dog Club people. They > first contacted me through Bill Pfeiffer and he called me and we thought it > was worth a try and Lew agreed. > The Board discussed it, I believe in Oct and in Jan. > We have no contract and do not have to use them. Therefore, no motion was > needed to utilize them as this was a trial basis. We don't get Motions on > everything needed to make this club work. We would get nothing done. A > Chairman makes decisions as how to operate their committee unless GSDCA > funds are needed and then anything over $700 needs Board approval. Also, all > contracts have to be signed by the Pres. and the Treas. > > 7) H/B was working with airlines for us for better pricing for the Board > meetings and members. > > 8) It is my hope to be able to work with Nancy and generate a system > whereby the members could get hotel information earlier than June so the > impression of favoritism in rooms could be dispelled. Also, this would > result in the approved hotels being booked first. > > 9) The hotels decide how many rooms they will release to a group based on > company policy. This is not a GSDCA decision. > > If you have read this far, I thank you, > > Joan. > > Joan Fox > GSDCA National Show Site Chairman > GSDCA Board Meeting Sites Chairman > GSDCA Policy and Procedures Chairman > GSDCA Board Members Orientation Guide Chairman > 440-543-9165 Home phone > 440-759-4119 Cell phone > 440-543-9165 Fax > > http://www.campaignersgsds.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original > author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any > kind > are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the > Showgsd-l Management. 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