From: bedkar@xxxxxxx: elg440@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: RE: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Have some faithDate: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 00:10:28 +0000 If dying and drugging is so "obvious", why do people breed to these same animals....just because they have a "title"????? What happened to studying pedigrees, asking questions, and matching your bitch with a dog thatcompliments her...regardless of titles. How about learning how to examine an animal (fur and all)and judging for your self it he best fits into your breeding plans. If an owner and/or handler won'tlet you examine a dog, let that be a red flag that all is not right. A judge offers you his/her opinion on a certain day.......the rest should be up to the breeder.If a newbie is trying to make the decision, then they should be working with a experienced,accomplished breeder who can help them learn the things they need to know. -Kay Reamensnyder and Betty Doerpinghaus -Home of Bedkar German Shepherds -bedkar@xxxxx -Visit our Website: www.bedkargsd.com > From: ELG440@xxxxxxx> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 19:51:33 -0400> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Have some faith> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > How about road working a dog that would be loose ligimented without it? How > about training a dog to run steady who would run all over the place without > training? How about slowing down a dog going away, who would be no longer > clean if they were run full out? What about training a dog to stack and then > bring up his ears with a whistle, when he would let them droop, without > assistance? What about running the dog outside the ring, so they are calm in the > ring for the class? Where is the line to be drawn?> > There are many things we do to improve the performance, and drugs are such a > small part of the dog, that I don't see it as a problem.> > I don't remember giving my dogs any drugs other than to help their health. > I do remember finding food with the proper combination to improve muscle or > attitude. That too is a drug.> > Have faith in the quality of the breeders. We won't breed to a dyed dog even > if he is Grand Victor. We won't breed to a dog that was drugged to show > better. And, we won't breed to a dog because of his title.> > The breed is so much improved in temperament. It has improved in type. It > has improved in movement. I see no need to more rules, unless you want a breed > warden. It is all up to the breeders, and the judges who decide what to > allow.> > Evan > Asgard German Shepherds > http://www.asgardgsd.com/> Where Type Movement and Temperament come together > > > > In a message dated 10/5/2008 11:41:03 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx writes:> > And yes if you insist on showing a dog that would> be limping w/o painkillers to mask it, for whatever reason...that is> fraudulent.> > > > > > **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. > Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! > (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001)> > > ============================================================================> POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org> NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/> ============================================================================ÿÿ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================