perception is just as important as reality .........Cyndy my dear...perception IS reality...almost everything we do or don't do is based on our perception...and there is a lot of negative perception in the sport of "showing" dogs...if AKC changed a few rules I believe some of the negative perceptions would lessen a little...but deep down inside I don't think most folks really want change......Ed Hill Cyndy <cyndy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: DD, I agree with your last statement. When things go wrong, some people have a tendency to blame everyone else but... :) I think there is fixing that goes on, or maybe just perceived, but as I have learned the hard way, perception is just as important as reality in most cases. One show at the break, the 12-18 dog's owner told the judge his dog needed one more win to finish. The judge finished the dog that day with a major. I am not saying this dog was not worthy, that is, after all, the judge's opinion. Maybe judges need to be more aware of the perception they create. Owners are equally at fault. A friend of mine who is a judge (not GSDs!) gets very popular in the weeks prior to her judging assignments. People calling to breed to her dog, people asking her opinion on this or that animal. It's quite humorous and we get a good laugh out of it because she is NOT one to be swayed. Ha-ha! Cyndy -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of D.D. and Bonnie Ardoin Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 7:06 AM To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Hard to believe!!!!! . I think the perception of fixing shows is greater than the actual occurrence. When you don`t win, it is easier to say `Fix` than to admit a better dog won or that the judge was incompetent. I think both occur frequently. That`s my story and I`m sticking to it! D.D. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================