In a message dated 11/29/2004 2:09:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, RihadinK9@xxxxxxx writes: the last time I had anyone clapping for my dog was 15 years ago when I finished my Smooth Collie, I have been reading these posts, and waiting for one to quote to add my opinion. This one just came up at the right time. Norma, or anyone else has the right to not show, or show as they decide. If you see terrible things going on in the ring, you owe it to the breed not to support that sort of activity. I have pulled dogs when I see a judge doing something harmful to the breed. Norma, in her mind did the same, and if everyone did it, we might teach clubs not to hire judges who do not know what they are doing. Now, it is possible someone made a mistake, but it is up to each exhibitor to decide where, when and how to show. No one owes anyone else anything else. I have found when I show a good dog, it gets applause, and it makes me feel good. I have never shown a top quality dog that does not get a crowd reaction. The applause at the national for O'Connor was fun, and even more so to hear the sudden gasp when I fell. I have never asked for applause, but then, I am myself and no one else. We need to walk in another's shoes before we attack others. But, be sure to wear clean socks. Norma has for years told us what she thinks, what she does, and how she approaches this sport She may not do it our way, but she has the right to do it her way, without us attacking her. We have a right to express our opinions, but it doesn't require personal attacks. Norma may march to a different trumpet player, but she does her dance her way and loves her dogs. Also, if you go to any major dog food company and watch what they do for quality control, and to improve the quality, you may just serve a good commercial brand. If you want to feed raw, cheap, mix in extra, or none of the above, you go for it. Each of us finds the best way to maintain our dogs. The best way to enjoy the sport, and the best way to live is our own way. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================