OK I have to ask. How is hand setting a dog going to make their bodies look longer, their stifles look longer or their upper arm look longer?? They are going to appear short in all those departments no matter how it is set. I love to see a trained show dog. In fact if that is the Job the GSD is doing then it should be trained to do it with style and grace and not look like a frantic child that can not leave it's mother :0) Terry ________________________________ From: Carol Weale <dankagsd01@xxxxxxx> To: elg440@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Mon, January 11, 2010 10:02:02 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Handling skills Their bodies are too short, the stifle is too short and the upper arms are too short. Other than that, they are just perfect. I don't want to see this type of dog self stack, it's not very pleasing to my eye, unless you are into labs, not that there is anything wrong with that except we are in the GSD ring. If built correctly ...with proper perportions...they self stack and look good. Carol W. ----- Original Message ----- From: <elg440@xxxxxxx> To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 9:30 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Handling skills In a message dated 1/11/2010 6:29:13 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, texasgsds@xxxxxxxxx writes: A friend and I were discussing how the old GSD handlers would walk dogs into a stack, get the dogs to straighten their front legs by pressing on the off side shoulder and show case their dogs. I rarely see that any more. Most handlers today seem to stack their dogs by placing each leg. I see some GSD's that will free stack in the all breed ring, especially if they are specials, but I don't recall seeing that at any specialty shows. What are your observations? Dragonslayer walked into a stack without touching him. Few since then have done that. I seldom moved a leg,other than the rear leg inside. If built correctly, a dog is easy to pose. So few are. Evan L. Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================