As a person who comes from other breeds where the dogs are expected to show well to be competitive, it drives me to NUTS to no end that so many of the GSDs are untrained. I understand the need to take the lead and go and the doublers, but can't the dogs be taught to do a down and back normally, to stand for exams and to freebait? Unfortunately, the dogs are worked up into a lather by the time they get in the ring and can't even begin to focus on what they are supposed to be doing. It all drives me crazy and I am constantly told that the dogs "shouldn't" be trained because it will ruin their ability to take the lead.. What does that say about the breed? And think of the impression on the public as the dogs are squirrelly in the stacks and drag their handlers out of the rings.. Dalmatians, Flat Coats, OES, Corgis, etc an stand in one place and watch bait, why can't GSDs or at least stand still and watch the doublers.. JMHO.. Jessica MacMillan Paisley Dals (www.paisleydals.com) & The Shepherd Girls (Simmie, CGC, TDI, TC, HIC & Pepper, HIC) Member of: DCA, GSDCA & GTCDC _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft?s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================