As a handler, I think it is fair to charge a group fee. If I show GSD's at 8 am and end up going breed, I have to stay at the show all day to show in groups, say around 2 or 3. It is another class, I groom the dog again... Paul adds... I understand your reasoning...but it works out to $150 a day for one dog plus expenses. JR, on the other hand, charges for the Breed and a Bonus if he places in the Group. I'd never seen it done that way before and wanted to know if it was prevalent. Paul ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================