Great post from Ileana, and I would echo every word she said. Carolyn ________________________________ From: "InquestGSD@xxxxxxx" <InquestGSD@xxxxxxx> To: geschette@xxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 8:39 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Handlers Handlers charge what people are willing to pay. And that's ok, if you can afford it. I remember a few years ago someone taking a second mortgage to campaign their special for a year....I thought she was NUTS! So, if you get charged those over the top prices, dont bitch, you agreed to it. If the handler cant be bothered to call you back, or springs new charges on the bill, get another handler. I dont understand why people think they are being held hostage. Oh, Yeah! because they want a face!!! That's the difference. Dont want to pay for a bonus?? Hire another handler! I just dont get the bitching, is a free country, you can hire anyone you want.....oh, but you want a FACE!! Then, lets not forget, the handlers that want a deposit on their commitments, because so many clients dont pay their bills. And they ruin it for the rest of the exhibitors. I know a handler with over $5000 due from a pair of clients. Not cool, people, not cool. We have used Tachi, Alex, Bill, Greg, Olivia, Leslie, Sylvain, CJ, Kent, Jim, and I may be forgetting someone. We learned from Greg to pay for the handling fees at the show, and he billed the expenses. It made a lot of sense, and I try to remember to bring my check book every time. Honest, I had handlers who have a LIFE....imagine that....and forget to bill for a while, so I pay the handling fee, and when they get around to bill expenses is no big deal, and usually not a big bill anyway. Not all handlers are bad, nor are they all professionals. I remember one trying to strong arm me to keep my dogs with them.....I kept all the emails that addressed their poor business practices, and I moved on. Because I decide where my dogs go, and who goes with my dogs, not the other way around. Thank You! Having said that, I have witness handlers taking great care of the animals they have with them at show weekends, its a whole day adventure, and in my book, they dont get paid enough for all that. Especially, when the owners are at the show acting like royalty. Charge away!! Sometimes you have to change handlers, because the situation requires it. Then you get the handlers acting like this is a personal attack!! Its business, not personal, why is that so hard to understand, I dont get it...but they will badmouth the clients with no basis....if they can get an audience, they have an act!! I love it when the handlers says "why you fired me, I thought we were friends"....oh yeah, you were my friend when you couldn't return a call? you were a friend when you double booked my class? you were my friend when you overcharged me? Who needs enemies!!! LOL! Not my personal experience, mind you, but certainly the experience of many, some close to me. I have also witness handlers showing their own dogs against their clients dogs. Talk about a conflict of interest. Then they dont have enough time to get their clients dogs ready, but still charge for those services. Really? ....and we wonder why there is a decline in entries? I think its an ego created situation. No one else to blame. We have been blesses with 99% good experience with those handlers with have worked with. 99% are still friends, some we consider family, one actually is...<G> This is supposed to be fun. You are in the driving seat...or should be. JMO, of course. Ileana In a message dated 7/25/2012 3:52:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, geschette@xxxxxxx writes: I need to go up on my prices. By alot Greg Sent from my iPhone On Jul 25, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Michael Goodwin <k9krazz@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > what is the average handler fee now? my handler charges me $125 per show (plus expenses) except in bred-by since he is co-owner. Getting too expensive for my blood.LOL. ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. 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