In a message dated 12/23/04 8:21:55 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, Gsdman2@xxxxxxx writes: I find the suggestion that our bloodlines are "tired" to be insulting, and I am still waiting to hear any sensible argument to support that accusation. I find great merit in what Tom says. It seems that those who are showing with some success feel the breed is doing well. Those who have given up on the show ring, for whatever reason, tend to believe they have given up due to the terrible condition of our breed. There are many, who have left the active end of the sport for personal reasons, and they tend to see it both ways, some thinking the breed has gone to hell, and some thinking things are still improving. Everyone brings a unique perspective to this sport. Most every position can be supported by examples, but the fact that the breed continues on says something about the health of our animals. If they are so sickly and deformed as some claim, the breed would have died out years ago. We do need to allow everyone their opinions, but we do not have to agree with anyone. What you decide for yourself will direct you as to how you approach this in the future, and will dictate how you enjoy or suffer the future of our breed. When I decide the breed is ruined, or I feel that there are no good dogs left, that is when I hope to find something else to occupy my mind and time, and move on to something more interesting. I would not want to find myself complaining about the decline in quality and expect those enjoying the sport to agree with me. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================