OH BTW/ A tidbit of Information , YOU all Might be interested to know that the Local Petland IN CARTERSVILLE , GA. WAS CLOSED AND IS BOARDED UP !!!!!!!!I can only hope that more are I know that here there was a News cast about them and there were diseased animals found at something like 126 Petlands around the US . A while back I know we had a lot here !Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 7:48 AM Diane, we paid those fees to end it. I call that a "settlement". It cost the club a good bit of money. Call it a settlement, call it an expenditure, call it whatever you wish. There was a negotiation between our attorney (who we paid), their attorney (who we paid). I call that a settlement, but call it...whatever. We paid money, it went away. There was another part of the "settlement". Do you remember the apology published in the Review???? I agree with you, the vote WAS re membership. What you don't seem understand was that the underlying issue and why some "yes" members voted the way they did was the legitimate question "did the application for membership/bylaws give those who wanted to vote "no" a leg to stand on?" You've seen others point out that there was legal opinion on BOTH sides, Mary Tripp even brought up the law the other day. Do you remember that board members were advised to go out and get umbrella insurance for their own PERSONAL protection??? Surely you don't thing that was just for fun do you????? That leaves the unsettled business re the membership application/bylaws/codes etc. REMEMBER, NOTHING HAS CHANGED. Tish and others worked on changing things and it was voted down by the membership. Was that two years ago Tish? Jamie has worked hard on the revision of the breeders' code and that effort had fallen flat too. You'd have to ask Jamie what meetings she presented the ideas to the board, and I'm sure its in the minutes. Personally, I don't consider myself a one issue voter. I spoke w/ two friends who are pretty far up on the legal food chain when this all went down, and based on our conversations, had I been in a position to vote, BECAUSE THERE WERE SOLID ARGUMENTS TO BE MADE ON BOTH SIDES, I would have voted "yes" too. Not only for the good of the club, but I have a lot to lose and I'll be damned if I'd risk it for a dog club. Faith, family...yes...dog club...no. In fact, the argument can be made that those who voted their conscience put the club at risk. Thank God it didn't get that far. This isn't a pissing match; I just won't let revisionist history go uncorrected. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) In a message dated 8/18/2009 4:46:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Kmgraphic2 writes: i will not get into a pissing match with you, kathy, or anyone else. the subject was the vote - the vote was not for a by-laws change but a vote on a prospective member. i did not bring up nor did i respond to "attorney's fees and associated transportation costs" - the INNUENDO of "settlement" in your original post was extremely misleading. there was NO financial settlement. diane Diane Silver-Strasser Silstra German Shepherds _http://skatiebugz.blogspot.com ; In a message dated 8/18/2009 6:14:48 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx writes: So you are saying we didn't pay their side's attorney's fees and associated transportation costs???? Sure of that????? _ (http://skatiebugz.blogspot.com/) ____________________________________ **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! 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