Yes, some dogs mature slowly and take more time to finish but it's still up to the individual. I personally think that most handlers are fair and earn everything they get. Thats Very true from the both of you. A professional handler is just that! PROFESSIONAL. I think the hardest thing for me (and thats true with all of the breeds I show) is to WAIT to spend the money. Yes, its true that dogs need exposure, but sometimes, trying to convince a client to wait until the dog is mature and in PEAK condition is like pulling teeth. I had a wheaten bitch that was going to be easily to finish bitch, but not at 13 months. I tried to convince the ladies to wait for 10 months. Wait untill her coat was better, she had bodied out and put on proper weight. No. they woudlnt hear of it. So off we went. 10 months later when shes ready to go, all we had to show was about 16 major reserves---to the tune of "nice bitch, but not fully mature yet". Of course when the bitch was really ready, the money was gone.. As a handler this is probably one of the most frustrating things to realize you have the "goods" and an overeager client who doesnt want to wait. I try to tell them to save the money and put in conditioning... after all wouldnt you like a dog to finish in about 2 weeks really fancy at specialties undefeated? Mike ====================== www.BlackHawk-Farms.com Northern California American Saddlebred Horse Association Vice President (Class of 2007) --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================