I am thankful I have never seen that,although I have heard from others who have. They are EXTREMELY easy to have around - low maintenance,easy keepers, good eaters,mellow with dogs and people. Also much sturdier and smarter than you would think. We refer to our girl as 'the queen' - the shepherds defer to her, she is now spoiled rotten. If anyone has room,it would be an extremely good deed to bring one home. ======== sent from my iPAQ handheld -----Original Message----- From: "Ruth Hartridge"<rhartrid@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: 1/16/05 2:53:30 PM To: "mgolant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<mgolant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Greyhounds (was Re: Daytona National???) I knew it was bad ,But didn't ralize it was THAT bad! Ihave seen the oixs of the Truck loads of the dead ones , piled up ttto the top !IN credible ! How can any humane do something like this to living beings ! Never mind the wonderful Greyhound ! I encourage people looking for a Pet to Get one or 3 , even before buying a Purebred Gsd ! Ruth Hartridge Heineken Shepherds -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of MARGERY GOLANT Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 1:39 PM To: stormygsd@xxxxxxx; edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'freelist' Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Greyhounds (was Re: Daytona National???) Right. What happens to them, unless they happen to be taken on by a = rescue group, is that they are killed, often horribly, with no thought to at = least a humane end, or left to starve (or dumped out in the middle of the = desert). The numbers of animals this happens to every year are boggling. There = is now a network of rescue groups around the country that saves many, but = there are many who are not lucky enough to get into their hands. In Spain, = all the Greyhounds who raced that season are killed at the end of the season = by being hanged from trees. The people who loved them try to hasten their deaths and end their suffering by pulling on their legs. Honest. While beyond belief, this actually occurs. Things are also very bad in = Ireland and Cyprus, among other places. For a while, there was a great deal of information "out there" regarding = the situation, here and there. However, the racing industry, as the price = for agreeing to cooperate with rescue, obtained a commitment from the groups that they would not broadcast the cruel things that were the underbelly = of the sport, and in order to save the dogs, the groups agreed. I have a Greyhound, who was a racing rescue. She is sweet, = affectionate, intelligent, and generally adorable. She is no German Shepherd, but = does well with the GSDs, and is a pleasure to have around. She loves to run, = and it is fascinating to watch - a Greyhound in many ways seems like a cross between a racehorse, a dog and a cat. Hard to explain until you live = with one. The running is not the problem - the terrible treatment and = cruelty the dogs are subject to is the problem, and unfortunately many of the organized racing activities and breeders don't seem to be willing to intervene to prevent it (although some now cooperate in, or even assist with, rescue). That is why many people refuse to support Greyhound = racing by going to the tracks, even though they truly are wonderful to watch in motion. Margy Golant -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On = Behalf Of Susan Madlung Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 1:01 PM To: edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; freelist Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Daytona National??? I think what is controversial about dog races is how the greyhounds are = kept and what happens to them when they can no longer race.. Sue Madlung - Shadowacre Reg'd German Shepherds http://www.shadowacre.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "edwinx" <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "freelist" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 9:51 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Daytona National??? > I missed that National...at the last minute I had to cancel for=20 > reasons beyond my control...just got back from a quick 34 hour visit (jet-lag is still with me)...I passed by the Ocean Center where the National was = held, my hotel was just down the street...really sad I missed it..Daytona was great...I saw some of the damage from Hurricane Charlie!!...many folks = are still suffering the effects of those 4 incidents...real interesting town!.....went to the dog races...yes I know dog racing is very controversial...but you could say the same thing about = conformation...I'll tell ya this...those greyhounds looked like they were having a blast = chasing the fake rabbit..what wonderful athletes they are.......oh yea...Daytona almost has more...eh "adult men" clubs than San Francisco...one day I = may go in one to see what all the fuss is about...lol...FB > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D POST is Copyrighted 2004. 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