Couldn't be more accurate on this one Carolyn. Like you..I am sure you knew you were competitive..ie..the dog looked good...you had done your part conditioning and grooming..but the rest was left to fate. another dog..on any given day..could have had a better performance...and ours on the other hand..could have had the worst performance in their whole show career! We have on average 3-4 litters a year..hardly big breeders. I maintain that success comes with quality..not quantity. if one needs to breed 10 litters a year to produce one or two quality animals...then one needs to go back to the drawing board. Oh..and Carolyn..what sweatshirt? How come you got one and we didn't??? Now you have really started something!LOL. Christine > [Original Message] > From: Carolyn <marhaven@xxxxxxx> > To: <pmick@xxxxxxxxx>; <lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 2/11/2005 7:36:06 PM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Grand Victors & thisa and thata > > I looked all over and I can't find any VIP badge for our sweatshirts either! <G> > Frank and I maintain with 6 dogs most of the time.....three males and three bitches, > managed to come up with two Grand Victors so far. Could be PURE LUCK....but > we aren't sending back any trophy's or titles!! <G> Granted two of the top handlers > on them.....but look how they can present a dog.... and SURELY you don't expect ME > to waddle around that arena.......YIKES!! Also Graingers along with the Master, > Bart, > but I don't think any of us are what are called "big breeders"...... ?? > > Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx > www.marhaven.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peggy" <pmick@xxxxxxxxx>To: <lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > > As usual, those last comments of Norma's were incorrect. > > I seem to recall a two time Grand Victor both here and in Canada who had > > no "important connections" at all (that is to say, no Board Members > > involved, no Officers, just his breeders and lucky me); who had no "big > > bucks" behind him. Oh yes, he did have a top handler for those > > wins...no one can deny Terry's great ability...but let us not forget > > that previously, the dog was Winners at the National under Joan Fox with > > his co-breeder showing him (from Bred-By Exhibitor); that he got a > > Select that year with his co-breeder showing him, and a Select the > > following year, again with his co-breeder on the lead. > > In spite of all the crap talk that went on later, all proved untrue, > > by the way, just remember that...the dog set records without all the > > nonsense that Norma seems to believe is necessary. > > Politics exists...but a great dog doesn't need them. > > Peggy Mickelson > > co-owner of 2X AmCan GV Marquin's Xtra! Xtra! > > along with his breeders: Mark and Barbara Hefner and Kevin Reynolds > >> > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================