I agree with you on all counts, but I will never stop breeding blacks. I love them as long as they have substance and aren't spindly. I always have a waiting list for people who want blacks. Pat Castle Kennels, Ltd. Where Shepherds of Distinction Reign www.castlekennels.com -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Penny & Bill Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 4:30 AM To: Show List Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Good black dogs The breed has come a long way since solid black Ch. UFO finished (with handler Lanalee) in the late 70's. Whether people (who own black and tans) want to admit it or not, in MY experience black GSDs are harder to finish. Carolyn is right when she says that the cdolor shouldn't matter--but unfortunately it does. It teaches one humility however--when showing blacks, my dogs have either won or been at the end of the line. The same goes with Forest, who is bi-colored. I started out with all-blacks in the 70s--but I must agree with Carolyn--it's the movement, show attitude--NOT THE COLOR. Some judges just don't like black dogs and/or they don't know how to look at them. It's a challenge. Penny in NY ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================