[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: [Germanshepherds4Show] Size of a show dog..............
- From: "" <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "Kathy Tank" <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx>, irrenhaus4@xxxxxxxxxxx, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:36:11 -0500
Kathy and all..Keep in mind that this thread was not about small vs big..it
was about normal being penalized as abnormal. Also keep in mind the
original thread was not really about dogs..but bitches, basically bitches
that are normal in height but being assessed as abnormal because they are
correct. I like a masculine male..I really don't like a masculine bitch..I
also don't like a tall leggy bitch with a deer like head and broom stick
legs, either. Again substance is "strong and solid" not tall, wispy,
spindly and deer like.Not only does this apply to bitches, but dogs as
well. One last point, a male being of standard size is not an excuse for
being effeminate. Substance is substance..a dog should be masculine. He
should be in his full glory at around 4 years of age. A dog that lacks
substance and masculinity should be penalized as such when mature, or if he
lacks those traits when compared to dogs in his same age group.. Our
standard again does allow for flexibility, but with that flexibility should
come the responsibility to police ones self. When bitches exceed the tall
end of the dog height by several inches..and dogs begin to exceed the
desired height by several inches..where do we draw the line..or do we draw
a line, and just what is ideal? Christine
hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Steve and Christine Grainger
WWW.HICKORYHILLGSD.COM
> [Original Message]
> From: Kathy Tank <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <irrenhaus4@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 3/11/2008 5:47:42 PM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: [Germanshepherds4Show] Size of a show
dog..............
>
> Again, as long as the dog is able to perform the task being asked of it,
> bigger is a matter of choice. I also know that height is a GUIDELINE, not
a
> hard and fast rule. We need big dogs, because Mother Nature tends to come
to
> the middle, the average. It is not difficult to get a standard size or
sub
> standard sized male, there are oodles of them. Some of us like a big
> dog...some do not, so be it.
> As Gary Lewis also pointed out, sometimes (although it sure seems RARE
> these days), a dog has such xint bone, head, ribbing, and correct length
> ratio that he may *appear* very large, when in fact he is not. Like Ch.
> Yankee of Fran Jo, his brother "Joe" (Garter's Emale of Fran Jo) is
> blessed with BONE, MASCULINITY, HEAD, RIBBING, LENGTH OF NECK....he is
also
> a tiny smidge over 26" , but at a lean , hard 96 lbs...he appears bigger
> than a wicket would show...he and his brother, are ALL MALE.
> I am FAR more concerned about the LACK of masculinity we are seeing these
> days, I am sick of having to look underneath to see "ohhh right, it's a
> boy, huh?" Bitchy headed males seem to be an epidemic these days...so
> too, lack of bone. If I have to go bigger (but not necessarily) to get
> that secondary sex characteristics that the Standard DEMANDS, then so be
> it. We see short legs and think bone?....we see fluffy coats and think
> substance...nope , look closer. Look at length to height ratio and see if
> the dog is correct, or just square and short legged, and fluffy.. Not
that
> I don't love a plushy coat, I truly truly do.... but let's not fool
> ourselves .
> As far as the argument by one person that large dogs don't do a multitude
of
> tasks better,
> I couldn't disagree more. I have owned some VERY large dogs that were
> amazingly athletic, and agile. Some very large GSDs excel at show,
> protection, herding, therapy...so that is not a correct assumption. I
have
> also seen some small or 25" males that can't move out of their own
shadows,
> to save them. Athleticism has more to do with ligamentation, , shoulder
> and croup and femur angles, muscling. It also has to do with HEART, and
> DESIRE ,, WORK ETHIC, and willingness/ability to please and be
> trained...something else we are not seeing as much as we should in the
> breed....ahhh but that is a different discussion for a different day.
> Have a good one Folks
>
> Kathy Tank
>
>
>
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