[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: [Germanshepherds4Show] Re: Sad-Amateur Futurity
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- To: "hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Joan Fox" <campaigners@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Germanshepherds4show@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "showgsd-l" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 14:06:17 -0500
Sorry for the spelling errors!LOL! Christine
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Steve and Christine Grainger
WWW.HICKORYHILLGSD.COM
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To: Joan Fox;Germanshepherds4show@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;showgsd-l;edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 4/9/2007 1:55:36 PM
Subject: RE: [Germanshepherds4Show] Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Sad-Amateur Futurity
Well, I am confused. I thought the rules stated that anyone including a pro
handler, judge or who ever could exhibit if the dog was handled by an amateur,
ie anyone who hasn't accepted money within the last year or was not a member of
their immediate family. If a pro handler "hired " non pro, how is this wrong?
Had I exhibited, Kathaleen Strong was going to handle for us, but due to the
weather, and her asthma, which was intensified by the cold,we opted not to
show. Steve couldn't handler for us( again per the rules) because had accepted
compensation for handling witching the last year.Kathaleen has bred a GV and a
GVX, but hasn't accepted compensation fro handling since 2000. Per the rules,
this would be ok. Now, if we look at the entries, we can see that most the
entries were comprised of well known breeders, including , ourselves,Ann, Lew
Bunch, Melissa Campbell, the Steiffermans, the Pyles and others( I don't have
the catalog in front of me, so sorry if I forgot anyone)
So in essence, the amateur futurity was entered by well know breeders, who got
amateurs to handle for them. Where exactly is the problem? And one last burning
question, Where are all those "newbies" who constantly complain on the list
that they can't compete in futurities because owners handlers can't win,
judges only look at handlers and that they can't afford it?. Here was your
golden opportunity to shine, and yet the entries were made by well known
breeders, who entrusted their good dogs with novice handlers. To me what this
amateur futurity has proven( and as I suspected) is that we have quite a few
"computer exhibitors" who want to complain endlessly on the List, but never get
their hand off their mouse long enough to participate even when a venue is
created to placate to them. the Board needs to consider this for the future of
this event. Even though having classes for each sex within the existing system
apparently met with resistance by some on the Board and on the F
ut. committee, I think it is evident by WHO entered, and how MANY entered that
adding classes within the existing system is the most logical approach and I
bet more clubs would be eager to participate. As the thread states, this is
"sad" and what makes it sad is that this could actually be a fun event, but if
we are going to nit pick and already start with the "they didn't play fair" cry
baby crap, then forget it. We will just keep adding more rules and regulations
till know one wants to show in it, and what could have been a fun event, will
go by the way side. Christine Grainger
hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Steve and Christine Grainger
WWW.HICKORYHILLGSD.COM
----- Original Message -----
From: Joan Fox
To: Germanshepherds4show@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;showgsd-l;edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 4/9/2007 12:46:21 PM
Subject: [Germanshepherds4Show] Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Sad-Amateur Futurity
Ann,
I was clear to say it was about a Professional handler and had nothing to do
with you or anyone else the past weekend.
It is sad indeed that you misconstrued 2 e-mails. No one else did.
As a Board member, and on the Fut/Mat committee I am trying to help make this
new venue a success and wanted to forestall any such a situation as I defined
twice now.
Joan
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From: ANN SCHULTZ
Date: 4/9/2007 11:40:55 AM
To: Germanshepherds4show@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Sad-Amateur Futurity
I think that it is sad that a board member, who wasn't there, has gone on
the list accusing someone of paying an amateur handler in the amateur futurity
from rumors that she heard. This takes away from the amateurs that had a great
time showing some nice dogs.
At
this time, I would like to introduce Jake Criss, who showed my two dogs. This
was his first time ever showing a dog in a regular class. He has always been
there to take in class winners, when there aren't enough handlers and he is
becoming a very talented handler. Nancy was great, reminding him that he had to
go around the ring after coming and going, showing him how to do teeth and
giving hints on how to get a dog to stop pacing.He was thrilled to take his
winning ribbons and plaque home with him. Everyone that was there had fun and
I heard many positive comments. I think this will fly.
Ann , Home of Sel Ex Ch Mechanical Bull and #1 Dam I've Got It All ROM
Breeder-Owner of 62 Champions and 18 ROMs
www.edangsd.com
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