I had all German lines and then Falko V Celler Schloss lines and heavy Arbywood NO PANO..I bred to Lance and got my first case of Pano big time..Also Reno who is a Lance son..We all know Lance had a bad case of it when younger..Not trying to knock any great dog but he did produce it..All dogs have something in the line..Myself I rarely get Pano with my animals but never say never and it goes away but pet people get upset with it Barbara Amidon www.amber-german-shepherds.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================