Gary was one of the folks who also encouraged me when I was new. In Verna's backyard when she played host to me and my Hanable. Gary admired Hanable and came to ask me if he was "toothless" because he thought he should be winning. At that time it was poor handlers and Gary asked to show him and Helen Fischer said go for it and Hanable became a Champion despite all the rotten comments sent our way because he wasn't extremely angulated. It was Gary who found Starr and guaranteed with Hanable we would produce graet dogs and that's why we have our Champions. If not for Gary and Verna I never would have stayed showing. Thank the Good Lord for their kind of people. Marie K. Hicks Hightor German Shepherds Acton, CA www.geocities.com/hightorgsd ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================