In a message dated 6/17/2008 7:22:26 AM Mountain Daylight Time, InquestGSD@xxxxxxx writes: Indeed. I find the biggest complaint "specialist" have against going to All Breeds is that the rings are too small. That is true in many cases, but has anyone approached the all breed club and find out what it would take to get a bigger ring? You will be surprised that in most cases the all breed clubs will accommodate the bigger ring (if the space is available) in exchange OK guys - For the past several years I have been the show chair of my local All-breed dog show. We are traditionally a 2000 dog show with conformation/obedience/rally. We hold our show at the Ranch (the same place the GSDCA national was held in October). This year I secured a well respected breeder judge from Mexico to be on our panel. Many of you have admired the dogs he has bred and entered over the years in the national. The other judge on the panel is also well respected in the GSD world as one who appreciates a well balanced, moving dog. In addition, I have secured a climate controlled building and earmarked a 60ft x 80 ft ring with plenty of room for ring side crating and reserved grooming with all the electricity your blowers could want. All the annoying toys and terriers will be exhibited in another building. The GSD entry is the following: 21 GERM SHEPHERD 11-10- 0-0 23 GERM SHEPHERD 11-11- 1-0 If I weren't a Shepherd person - the show superintendent would have laughed in my face for asking him to bring the extra gating for this meager entry. Thank goodness for all the local puppies in the area to help with the numbers. In retrospect - last weekend I attended an all breed show in Colorado Springs that had 52 Rhodesian Ridgebacks in a 40 x 40 ring. They had to do the specials in two groups to fit them all in. First I didn't know there were that many Rhodesians in the whole country and second - I would have loved to have those entries at my show. I wonder if next year they would like a 60 x 80 ft ring - 21 German Shepherds sure don't need it....... Entries are what talks....... ~ Val Manning Terra Norte' GSD Wellington, CO **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================