Please read the post with the Subject starting Caution This is an important subject, and the thread shouldn't be halted because of slamming one origin of the breed or another. Thanks Stormy Hope Holding that hat, ready to put it on now. Please? On Apr 30, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Ken Tank <tanksr@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Evan your knowledge of German dogs is extremely limited at best. It's > disappointing to see the German vs American nonsense on the list (isn't > that a no no?), and how did you go from Stormy's post to this???? Quite a > segway, lol. > Many dogs are in a shelter because they have temperament problems, no > matter in what country they were bred. You may see more European dogs in > shelters because it's easier to dump your problems when you can ship them > to another country. As an attorney I'm sure you get this. > > As I'm sure many will point out, temperament problems can come up in any > line, however, they are far more likely to arise in dogs that are inbred. > > In breeding depression - We all need to learn about this if we want to > improve the health and temperament of our dogs, and then go back 7-10 > generations in our dogs pedigrees. You cannot outcross if you breed > American to American. > > Ken > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 10:42 AM, <ELG440@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >> As a lawyer, I am getting the same thing. I hate to say this, but a lot >> of homes buy dogs from Germany. Not only are they too aggressive for an >> American audience, they often are poor examples of our breed. >> >> A number of sellers make a point of getting people dogs from Germany, and >> then won't stand behind them. I do not mean to make this German vs >> American, >> but the temperament that they are selling is a problem from any country. >> >> The buyers then place them in a shelter, and call us breeders for a good >> puppy. When I am at the shelters, the majority of the German shepherds >> are >> not dogs I could live with. >> >> Therein is another problem. How do we address that without slamming German >> dogs, which in my opinion can be great? >> >> Evan L. Ginsburg >> gsyrfund.com >> Asgard German Shepherds >> _http://www.asgardgsd.com_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) >> Where Type Movement and Temperament come together >> >> In a message dated 4/30/13 10:32:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >> stormy435@xxxxxxxxx writes: >> >> I am hearing more about those aggressive GSDs, and somewhere a very >> difficult decision has to be made for all of them. >> >> >> >> > > > ===========================================================================> > POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original > author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any > kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the > Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and > its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed > in any post. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY > FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE > PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org > SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html > NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ > =========================================================================== Stormy V. Hope https://www.facebook.com/GSDCA.LegislationAwareness https://www.facebook.com/CaRPOC.CaliforniaResponsiblePetOwnersCoalition ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================