I was in hopes this would stick to conformation as this is a conformation list, but with the following statements I could not let this stand. I broke it into sections as each needs answering. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- Paula writes; "My GSD is able and capable of fighting in a pit against any pit bull that Michael Vick can come up with. My GSD is able and capable of leading the blind. My GSD is able and capable of earning a GrandVictoriateship in Obedience/Rally/Herding/Agility/Schutzhund/Babysitting/Tracking. My GSD is able and capable of jumping out of an airplane, with or, preferably, without me. My GSD is able and capable of eating out of garbage cans, on the street, while avoiding AC." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- I answer; By this reasoning anyone could breed to anything and have a show dog. Yes they might get a showable dog but it would be a great leap to get one that excels in that venue. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Paula also writes: Ivan Pavlov did a big study on this. Perhaps some of you have heard of it? It is called Conditioned Stimulus or Response. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- I answer; You could do all of Pavlov's stuff to me and I will never be a ballet dancer, singer, gymnast, etc. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------- Again Paula writes; Maybe we should be more selective in breeding ourselves? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------- I answer; In animals it is part of what we call Animal Husbandry. Are you suggesting we do not "select" animals to produce champions? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------- I am not saying the Am bred cannot do it, what I am saying most dogs are useful in some things but not all dogs are useful in all venues. A schutzhund sport dog is not inclined to be a good Guide Dog for the blind...different drives required. You could get both in a litter but to have it all in the same dog would be exceptional. Lissa **************Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000003) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================