In a message dated 9/4/2007 7:26:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mrstitanium@xxxxxxxxx writes: I have been talking with some people that have informed me about the famous Ballot Gate from when Mr. Ken Downing was President. Now he wants to be Pres. again? Wasn't he just dismissed, I am not sure of the correct word, as Pres.from the WDA for the same things? The ballot thing was so ridiculous. He told the ballot counting company to count everyone's ballot, and not to throw them out if not filled out fully, if they could understand them. I thought it was a good plan, but he was criticized for it. Ken had no way to know what counting every ballot might do, but it was done to make as many who voted to be counted, rather than thrown out if they made a mistake in form. Ken truly believed in inclusiveness. Ken was suspended as president of the WDA by the people who filed charges, and those same people met and voted him off the board. At least in his case, they did pay the fine and file charges. Those who served with Ken in the past know what he does with a club, and how he ran the GSDCA. He will respond himself, but I don't think the Ballot thing would work against him, it should be a badge of honor. Evan Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================