I’ve been ‘studying’ barn hunt quite a bit … and nose work. I think both of
them would require more skill and inherited instincts than you would think.
Dock diving? well, when I watched it, I said it took a BRAVE dog LOL>
Especially the ones that darn near “flew” to the end of the diving tank. <G>
They do look like they are having a lot of fun.
I played with Rally quite a bit while in Colorado. But I do obedience with my
dogs from the time they are puppies, so the dogs were going around with me from
the beginning.
Some believe doing obedience work takes away from what they can do in
Conformation. I didn’t see that, but I guess it’s like anything else…. what
you get used to.
Storm
On Aug 7, 2015, at 8:28 PM, Carolyn Martello <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Stormy V. Hope
Isn't Rally Novice all done on leash....with lots of talking and praise and
motioning to actually still
'direct' the dog? I would think the dogs are more left to making some of
their own decisions with
the barn hunt, duck diving.... (not sure about lure coursing and what it
entails though ) than with
Rally Novice?
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.marhaven.com
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On Behalf Of Doc Zoe Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: GSDCA ELECTION QUES. - Question # 9
Our AOE dogs are 5-6 when they they start to do performance
Rally is not that easy for a dog that has not been patterned young.
I voted against barn hunt, duck diving and lure coursing as an inclusion for
work
On 7 Aug 2015, at 21:52, gsdworkingline@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
Well, Rally Novice is SUPER EASY! My GSD earned it as a puppy at 9 months, I
believe! I know she was definitely under a year old! It's all on leash and no
precision is required. You are allowed multiple commands and constant praise
and encouragement
(like clapping your hands and patting your leg) during the exercises (unlike
obedience). I am shocked they said it required a considerable amount of work
for a passing score! It's so easy that any dog with minimal training will
pass with a qualifying score!
lose link on test:
http://www.vonlotta.com/bhrules.html <http://www.vonlotta.com/bhrules.html>
I was just questioning whether the requirements for AOE were sufficient.
Mostly, I was curious what future board members would feel regarding the
issue! Of course, we want our best dogs to share such a prestigious title....
Thank you for your time!
Warm Regards,
Sarah
On Aug 7, 2015, at 9:32 PM, Helen Franklin <helenfranklin520@xxxxxxxxx>the Chair's of AOE, believe that the> qualifications for AOE are both
wrote:
Thank you Sarah for your interest in AOE. I have been privileged to speak
with many of our AOE recipients and discussed at length> their experience
earning the Rally Novice Title. According to our members, as related to
me, this title is one of a considerable amount> of work between the dog and
the trainer, displaying many of the breed instincts attributed to the
German Shepherd Dog. The Herding> Title and Tracking Title, or Schutzhund
Title do not require "other dogs" as you mentioned. We
responsible and what the GSDCA should require of our best German Shepherds.
...
May I inquire Sarah, If you have ever earned an AOE? Are you questioning
our requirements for any purpose?
Do know that I am always here to answer any questions you may have.
Helen Franklin
AOE Co- Chair
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:34 PM, <gsdworkingline@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Mrs. Franklin,
Thank you for your reply. I know a lot of us who have put RNs on our
shepherds realize it is a VERY easy performance title to earn. I do not
mean that disrespectfully. I was just curious if the future Board would
prefer a tad higher degree of training for our top Select German
shepherds......That's all.
Personally, I and many others I have spoken with would like to see a CD
requirement as part of the AOE. As someone who has also put that title on
my shepherd, I know the degree of difficulty that title entails. One of
the discussions that took place was that a RN was an easy title could be
attained and a title that does not require the dog to be in the same ring
as other dogs. I know that sounds crazy but people who show in
performance understand a lot of dogs with shaky temperaments (or dog
aggression) avoid the obedience ring simply because they cannot be around
other dogs off leash.
Our thought was that the AOE should be maybe a bit more difficult to
attain so only spectacular animals would qualify. After all, they should
be our "best". Sometimes, if a title like AOE is easy to attain , it
loses it's value. I was just curious what the future board might believe
on this topic.
However, thank you for sharing your thoughts on this matter! I am very
happy that any performance title is required along with temperament test
and hip/elbow clearances. I am proud of our AOE dogs! I'm not trying to
criticize just offer a suggestion that might improve our breed moving
forward.
Dr Zoe Backman
Kind Regards,>> Sarah
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 7, 2015, at 5:34 PM, Helen Franklin <helenfranklin520@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:>>>
9) Do you think the AOE should require a performance title that involves
the dog to compete in a performance class other than rally novice?
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