The ILP# (Indefinite Listing Privledge #) has been in use for many years. It is for dogs who are believed to be purebred but cannot be registered. In order to obtain an ILP#, an application must be made to AKC which includes a full standing side picture and full standing front picture along with verification of why the person believes the dog to be purebred but not registerable. This only allows dogs to compete in specific performance events. The PAL# (purebred alternative number) is the same just a newer name. AKC makes the decision as to whether the dog is granted the ILP/PAL number. Sue Mazzeo On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 4:28 PM, <ELG440@xxxxxxx> wrote: > In a message dated 9/6/13 4:23:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > sue.mazzeo68@xxxxxxxxx writes: > Sorry Lissa, but an ILP# is NOT an AKC registration. It is an Indefinite > Listing Privilege Number given to unregisterable dogs that are believed to > be purebred. It does not grant that animal a place in the stud books. It > only allows it to compete in specific events. While it may seem like > semantics, it is not. Dogs with PAL numbers don't even have to appear to > be purebred to compete in those events in which they are allowed. > > > Who makes the decision as to an ILP? What is the basis, since we can do a > DNA with a mouth swab? > > What is a PAL, and how is that decided? > > Do we need to know this stuff to vote on the DQ of a white shepherd? Or > is this just to try to shade the vote? > > Evan L. Ginsburg > gsyrfund.com > Asgard German Shepherds > _http://www.asgardgsd.com_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) > > > > > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS > of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author > AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group > and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions > expressed in any post. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY > FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE > PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: > http://showgsd.org/mail.html > NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ > > ============================================================================ > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================