Wouldn't we rather rescue a dog that turns out to be a mix than miss a true PB that is in a shelter - most of these dogs are pulled based on a picture - usually not a good picture .? The list changes daily, some times hourly and?often you only have hours to set up the pull and transportation on a given dog.? To me - LHSH does a fantastic job at staying on top of the potential pull list - sometimes I wonder how they have time to do anything else - it can take multiple phone calls to arrange a pull with a shelter, someone to pull and someone to transport - As to numbers - I looked at petfinder this am and just in the GA and SC area - and only in kill shelters - and only looking at PB - I found: 20 GSD's ?? of those - 2 are white GSD's ????????????????? ?????????????????3 are puppies ??????????????? 18 of these (including the 3 puppies) are in GA - (where often the shelters have no food for the dogs)? ???????????????? 2 are in SC?? ??????????????? At least one of the dogs in GA is listed with AKC papers . .?? I agree that when you look at petfinder it makes you believe that shelter personnel are breed identification challenged - but for many of the shelters they probably don't spend more than 2 minutes a dog trying to figure it out . . Both of my local shelters claim to handle about 18,000 dogs a year - so that is 1,500 dogs a month or 50 dogs a day or 5 dogs an hour - so that is a max of 12 minutes a dog - and of course that doesn't even consider that they take in A LOT of cats - and other animals . . . I for one am not so concerned in how they count them as how they save them - and they do - and they do a fantastic job - we as shepherd breeders/lovers are so fortunate to have such a dedicated group leading the rescue charge for us!!!! Barb -----Original Message----- From: Peggy <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: windwych@xxxxxxxxx; gsd <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:42 am Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: GSD numbers in shelters Gee...I must have been labouring under the delusion that ALL dogs were of concern to responsible breeders... gee, how altrusitic I must be! On the other hand, I do know that part of the reason we are having to face all this stinking anti-dog legislation is because there are people out there who STILL say "Oh, it isn't MY breed." How limited is your vision, anyway? Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "ellen penington" <epeningt@xxxxxxxxxx> >I have great compassion for all these dogs,,,,but....I find less than 20% >of > all the GSD\s listed as pure bred to actually be GSD's . I donate for > every > good cause and have donated $$$$ to LHSH. But, as an avid browser of > perfinder.com please keep your focus and credibility. There are NOT OVER > 7000 PURE BRED GSDs in shelters waiting for homes. Please don't turn into > an ARista. We are counting on you for truthful accurate info. A GSD/pit > bull mix while sad is not the responsibility of responsible breeders. > > Ellen Penington ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================